Thread: [See Bugtracker] Logs and data privacy
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Old 20.04.2018, 11:28
neme neme is offline
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Thank you both for being open on the topic and answering. I got you guys with your point of view, that you could be evil already if you wanted to. On the other hand as IT specialists Im sure that you understand that's not the case. For me JD with it's transparency was always number one as the software that I can trust - even though I didn't check the sourcode at any point.

@raztoki Im nota tech guy but I've seen inside of a zipped log passwords to recently used hosters, unpacked files, proxies etc.

Let's say I've downloaded:
18.04.2018: files from: YouTube
18.04.2018: files from: RapidGator
19.04.2018: files from: Facebook
19.04.2018: files from: Porntube with VPN
20.04.2018: files from: Keep2Share
20.04.2018: Tried to download files from: UL.to and got an error
(it's just an example - I don't know if YT, Fb or PT need passwords to work)

So from what I can see in the log file you will get all the passwords in plain text and list of files that I've downloaded. I cannot control the conents of the log (even in really small matter) - lets say delete file names downloaded from services different than "UL.TO" and don't send other passwords than to service "UL.TO". If previous downloads were fine (before an error occurred), why would I want to send all the passwords? If the log says that connection was fine with Keep2Share, Porntube etc (look example above) than why would you "need" passwords to these services?

I suppose that in most cases filenames are not crucial so actually they could be wildcarded.

@Jiaz
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Originally Posted by Jiaz View Post
@neme:
The logs are not sent automatically. You first have to manually open the *Create Log* window and select the ranges. And then you have to click on *Continue*. That's far from automatically.
Im sorry, I not fully agree with You @Jiaz. Spot the difference:
Code:
How sending logs looks now:
Menu -> Create log -> Select ranges (not pick ranges) -> Continue
How should I know that after I press continue something will be already sent? "Continue" is a button like "next" and not "Done"/"Finish"/"Send".

Code:
How sending logs could look like:
Menu -> Create log -> Select ranges or pick manually -> 
See the contents of the log, question encrypt log "Yes/No" -> 
click the button "Send the log" (not "continue" !)
or else somewhere in the process of creating a log a possibility to pick the problematic host/part of the sofware so not much more will be send then needed.

Maybe it's more about awarness and concious decision.

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Originally Posted by Jiaz View Post
Users trust us(the developers) and JDownloader enough to use it for daily *downloading* of *family holiday photos* without thinking about such topcis at all. Same users also trust firefox/chrome and yet those send EVERY SITE/DOWNLOAD (...)
I DO think about privacy and try to configure the software the best way I can which is of course not easy (Chrome send automaticly list of passwords to Google account and spy through services and devices, there are digital fingerprints everywhere etc). I belive you want to make JDownloader at your best not comparing it to the different software and world that went crazy with getting our data.

Im always amazed by your work - for all the years, especially for support. I haven't seen this kind of quality in almost any commercial software. My concerns with privacy came when looked at the log and I started to wonder if it's not some kind of way that you would make money on Jdownloader because you do it for free/donation based and I was always curious with it.

Greetings,
neme
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