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Old 29.07.2010, 03:21
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Default free account support for netload + sharingmatrix

username and password are fine, but after I check for the account to be active, it grays out and becomes inactive.

A free account allows no wait downloading, so it has value. But why does JDownloader not accept some?

I won't even go into an occasional Missing plug-in error for a file in mid-stream. Why it downloads 2 and 4 and skips 3 with that error is just crazy too.

But the account sticking is more important right now, ergo this post.

Please help. Thank you.
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Old 29.07.2010, 07:45
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This is caused because the JD staff does not know that there are Registered users and Premium (paid) users for that host.

It is usually easy to fix, but we cannot fix this one. You did not tell us which host you are having problems with. . Please provide several links to files on that host (make sure they work in the browser).

Whenever there is a problem, we need sample links and a Log that shows your attempt to set the account and download a link.

The problem with links stopping in the middle is usually because you are using too many connections, your machine is too busy, or there is a problem at the host. For some reason, a download stopping in the middle is often misinterpreted by JD's status system and reported as a plugin problem. A log that shows this occurring would be helpful.

We cannot try to fix the problem until you supply the name of the host and some links.

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Old 29.07.2010, 07:58
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I have problems with two hosts, and both are free.

They are netload.in and sharingmatrix.com. Here are links to the files **External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff** for netload.in and **External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff** and for sharingmatrix.com.

Oddly enough I also have free accounts with megaupload.com and fileserve.com and those hold fine all the time.

Now as typing this, and I managed to get a file to download seconds after enabling the netload.in account, it is holding for the meantime, but the sharingmatrix holds for a second after enabling and then grays out and says Invalid Account. It says Unlimited when active.

All the links check out in my browser, BTW

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Old 29.07.2010, 14:08
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Hi AZ-J
We only add free account support for hosters which give the users advantages if they download using free accounts.
If sharingmatrix and netload have enough free account advantages (more speed, less limits...) we can implement them.
Please show us the advantages of free accounts of those 2 hosters.

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Old 29.07.2010, 17:40
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One instant advantage of a free account is no waiting time between downloads, or reduced time between them (such as 32 seconds instead of 10 minutes). If you are downloading 10 or more files, a user can waste a lot of time waiting w/o a free account.

So free accounts are advantageous. They reduce or eliminate the waiting time, and in one case, increases my download speed from 55 kbps to 1 Mbps (netload.in), dramatically.
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Old 29.07.2010, 19:11
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Please post a link to netload/sharingmatrix where i can see the advantages on their page.

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Old 30.07.2010, 05:44
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How can you show something that innate? They don't list the advantages, they just promote premium. But the advantages are there.
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Old 30.07.2010, 09:48
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I cannot find anything about advantages of registration for these sites, except for earning points and managing uploads. We would have to compare wait-times and download-speed on a browser.

The information in the sharingmatrix FAQ only mentions managing uploads, so I doubt there are other advantages other than collecting points toward cash or Premium.
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Old 30.07.2010, 13:25
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I personally don't think there are any advantages.
Please post some example links and send me some free accounts via PM so i can compare that manually.
I won't be able to test he big waittimes because i won't test till i reach the limit.

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Old 30.07.2010, 18:10
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I guess I have to give up convincing you. Why can't you see these free accounts increase streaming (downloading more than one file at a time) and waive or shorten download wait times for sequential downloads on these sites?
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Please post some example links and send me some free accounts via PM so i can compare that manually.
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Old 31.07.2010, 00:51
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Why can't you see . . .
Because you have not shown us experiments or documentation to support your claim.
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There are some sites that give increased download speed or shorter wait times, but that is almost always part of the advertised advantages of giving them your information.

In general, if there is no great advantage to Registered User status (over Anonymous), then it should not be used, because it removes the advantages of reconnection.
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Old 31.07.2010, 06:24
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Please post some example links and send me some free accounts via PM so i can compare that manually.
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I can't share p'words with you or anyone!
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Old 31.07.2010, 06:30
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Because you have not shown us experiments or documentation to support your claim.
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There are some sites that give increased download speed or shorter wait times, but that is almost always part of the advertised advantages of giving them your information.

In general, if there is no great advantage to Registered User status (over Anonymous), then it should not be used, because it removes the advantages of reconnection.
I still reconnect using many of them. With netload.in it sometimes seems in the way. The advantages should be obvious to you two, instead it seems you don't care to assist. Oh well.
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Old 31.07.2010, 10:02
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This has nothing to do with caring or not caring. There is no assistance I can offer until you supply either experiments or documentation. In the meantime, these registered accounts (I have several) give the host more information about the user than is necessary.
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What I am asking you to do is

Download 3 200MByte files (with nothing else happening on your computer) and time the download as an anonymous user, with no reconnection. Do the same for 3 other files of the same length as a registered user, with no reconnection. Write down the times and show a significant improvement.

You have to use 6 separate files, all the same size because there is caching in several places. The files do not have to be 200MB, you can pick the size, but they all have to be the same size.

Do this for the two sites without changing any settings in your OS TCP or in JD and report the results.
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I cannot do this for you. I have my own tests and experiments to do.
You can use a JD Log to help you calculate the time to download.
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Old 31.07.2010, 14:46
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I can't share p'words with you or anyone!

So then create some new accounts for us.
How paranoid do you have to be to use a programm but not to trust it's developers ???

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Funny thread. My diagnosis is simple :- laziness. In general, people are lazy creatures and some creatures expect others to do all the work for them.
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Old 02.08.2010, 09:08
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There is an August 12 deadline to provide the requested information, or the thread is gone.

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Old 02.08.2010, 21:45
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There is an April 12 deadline to provide the requested information, or the thread is gone.
April 12th of 2012, or the April 12th that past a few months ago?

RockinJD with Free Registered Accounts because I know there is a difference, Just not willing to share them.
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Old 04.08.2010, 10:29
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provide screenshots with parallel downloads or more speed or something
i tested netload (no advanage) and sharingmatrix(also no advantage). so please show us

once we can confirm advantages we will add free support for those hosts.
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Old 04.08.2010, 12:50
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@Jiaz
I told him that several times before but he doesn't want to test nor he wants to send us accounts to test.
Deadline is in 8 days, then this wiull be DECLINED!

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