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Old 22.07.2011, 11:18
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I just installed 1.1.5 for the first time, and I got a loop of error messages that kept saying: "Error loading config file!" and I ended up having to end the process. About the 3rd or 4th time of opening the program, I was finally able to put in my username and password and answer a couple captchas. But then it crashed with another error message. When I tried opening again, I was getting the "Error loading config file!" message again. I'm on Win 7 X64

Update: JDownloader is now stuck on waiting for a captcha to be answered. I cannot exit JDownloader. It did not give me the option to answer my own captcha (is this part of the cbh? can I disable this so I can also answer my own?).
can you send me screenshot of error to captchabrotherhood@gmail.com ?

open solver, click "about", click "open", a directory windows will be opened.
can you send me "solver_logFile" and "plugin_logFile" to captchabrotherhood@gmail.com ?

if you add me to msn (captchabrotherhood@gmail.com) we solve problem faster.
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Old 22.07.2011, 14:47
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I do not like mistakes/typo = -8! It is like a punishment for people who support the system. Sometimes the captchas are very difficult to solve and after the third mistake I have no fun anymore with Brotherhood
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Old 22.07.2011, 14:49
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can you send me screenshot of error to captchabrotherhood@gmail.com ?

open solver, click "about", click "open", a directory windows will be opened.
can you send me "solver_logFile" and "plugin_logFile" to captchabrotherhood@gmail.com ?

if you add me to msn (captchabrotherhood@gmail.com) we solve problem faster.
hi

here is the same problem, i think install dir on C:\Users\xxx\AppData\Local\Captcha_Brotherhood\ is very bad

solver_logfile

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22.07.2011 13:43:06 : starting getConfig!
22.07.2011 13:43:06 : getconfig: user-pass = xxx:xxx
22.07.2011 13:43:21 :
DB connection error. Timeout expired. The timeout period elapsed prior to obtaining a connection from the pool. This may have occurred because all pooled connections were in use and max pool size was reached.
at System.Data.ProviderBase.DbConnectionFactory.GetConnection(DbConnection owningConnection)
at System.Data.ProviderBase.DbConnectionClosed.OpenConnection(DbConnection outerConnection, DbConnectionFactory connectionFactory)
at System.Data.SqlClient.SqlConnection.Open()
at ocrHood.solverConfig.Page_Load(Object sender, EventArgs e) in D:\projeler\ocrHood\ocrHood\solverConfig.aspx.cs:line 43
22.07.2011 13:43:21 : can't process config variables : Der Index war außerhalb des Arraybereichs.
bei captchaSolver.frmCaptchaSolver.getConfig()



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Old 22.07.2011, 15:31
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I do not like mistakes/typo = -8! It is like a punishment for people who support the system. Sometimes the captchas are very difficult to solve and after the third mistake I have no fun anymore with Brotherhood
imagine you dont use CBH or any plugin and enter captchas manually.
if you enter for wrong captcha for very difficult image ? what happens ?
you just enter another captcha for same file.

while using CBH result of loosing 8 credit is same !
you just enter another captcha. there IS NO difference.

if we don't -8 credit, MANY people will enter random captchas and system will be sabotaged, this is not guess, this is lived history :(
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Old 22.07.2011, 15:35
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hi

here is the same problem, i think install dir on C:\Users\xxx\AppData\Local\Captcha_Brotherhood\ is very bad

solver_logfile


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our install dir is
C:\Program Files\Brotherhood Software\Captcha Brotherhood\

we use
C:\Users\xxx\AppData\Local\Captcha_Brotherhood\
to store necessary files, because on some w7 and vista computers, we need admin rigths to store data under "C:\Program Files\" directory. and some users dont like running CBH and JD with admin rights.

your problem is timeout problem, our server was busy when you request captcha. try few minutes later when you get timeout error please.
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Old 22.07.2011, 16:44
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imagine you dont use CBH or any plugin and enter captchas manually.
if you enter for wrong captcha for very difficult image ? what happens ?
you just enter another captcha for same file.

while using CBH result of loosing 8 credit is same !
you just enter another captcha. there IS NO difference.


if we don't -8 credit, MANY people will enter random captchas and system will be sabotaged, this is not guess, this is lived history :(
It is not the same!

One credit complies with one file download, right?
If I enter a wrong captcha without a plugin, I do not get a File. If I enter a wrong captcha in CBH, I do not earn a credit. This is the same!

But I lose Credits in CBH! It is just like deleting a downloaded file from my HD after I entered a wrong Captcha without a plugin.


Many People will enter random captchas? Not really. They want credits and with random captchas they get no credits.

Please not misunderstand me, I like your work but this Point you should rethinking. It is very demotivating to lose something what I have already earned. This is lived history :(

Last edited by Tiescher; 22.07.2011 at 16:49.
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Old 22.07.2011, 16:46
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@Tiescher
lelim is right, -points for wrong captchas are needed!
Captchatrader is also used by many people who earn points through referals and the system only works because the people working for captchatrader do the balance

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Old 22.07.2011, 17:29
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O.K I am outvoted, but i think it is still demotivating. It is debatable whether the System is really works with this point. It is a punishment! And Systems who punished me i don't like
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Old 22.07.2011, 17:30
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Now think:
I don't have a problem entering 5-10 captchas more than usually as long as my downloads run fully automated then...

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Old 22.07.2011, 17:59
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This is why I accept the relation between 8 earn and 10 costs, but I don't accept punishment for illegible captchas. And of course I think.

Last edited by Tiescher; 22.07.2011 at 18:15.
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Old 22.07.2011, 21:22
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@Tiescher
But this is especially good against those who type in wrong captchas on purpose!

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Old 22.07.2011, 21:47
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How can I temporarily disable the captcha brotherhood plugin from auto-filling my captchas while I'm at my computer, so I can fill them myself (without disabling JD's auto-captcha)?
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Old 22.07.2011, 21:58
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@RobbieG
You can't.
You would have to make a little tool that removes the ocrhood folder.

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Old 22.07.2011, 22:01
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@RobbieG
You can't.
You would have to make a little tool that removes the ocrhood folder.

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Where is that folder located?
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Old 22.07.2011, 22:06
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[your JD programmfolder]/jd/captcha/methods

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Old 22.07.2011, 22:09
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[your JD programmfolder]/jd/captcha/methods
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Old 22.07.2011, 23:26
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Many People will enter random captchas? Not really. They want credits and with random captchas they get no credits.
some users entered hundreds of wrong captcha hours long to sabotage system. their goal was not earning credit and downloading files.
A sabotager can enter 100 captcha in a hour, and average regular user sends 1 captcha with JD in a hour. this mean a single sabotager can stop ALL downloads of 100 people. this is like DDOS attack to web servers.

to protect system from sabotagers we have some solutions ;
- giving -8 credit for wrong captcha
- international SMS verification as youtube does

SMS case: cost of sms verification is high for us. if we want your mobile number to send sms, i guess you will be more angry
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Old 22.07.2011, 23:29
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Well then just check all captcha responses with reCaptchas haha :D

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P.S *Just kidding, had to post it*
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Old 23.07.2011, 04:42
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@Tiescher the system does need to punish the users account in some manner, CBH does this by -8 and most likely bans the account once its reached -X points as a threshold. CT does it slightly different but still bans accounts on automated attack or trying to use antirecaptcha to solve/earn points. Both of these are easy to detect as they have much lower success rates than humans.

Does CBH have skip button? if you cant read the captcha maybe you should ask for another instead of risking chance of getting it wrong? Been some time since I've used CBH and can't recall.
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Old 23.07.2011, 14:41
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Does CBH have skip button? if you cant read the captcha maybe you should ask for another instead of risking chance of getting it wrong? Been some time since I've used CBH and can't recall.
CBH does't have skip button because JD does't have skip button too.
CBH is just gateway between remote users JD and you.
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