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Old 30.01.2011, 19:46
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@danccm
It's simple.
We regexed the JS and replaced ( |\\+|\\') by "" (=remove them).
They just added extra JS.
I won't play their game.
It's up to depositfiles to chase their own users away and minimize their income by doing that;)

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Old 30.01.2011, 23:17
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Really glad you figured out the source of the problem. Maybe complainign to DF will get them to stop their game-playing.

From what you wrote, does this mean the JD won't be issuing an update for this?
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Old 30.01.2011, 23:18
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At least i won't fix it anymore because by doing this we even support their game and we do what they want.
Depositfiles should see their costumers running away from them, then they might stop this game...

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Old 31.01.2011, 09:59
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at least they should rethink their strategy and provide an api for their premium customers. at the moment they block free/premium(?).
for free users they should also rethink it but i guess they need to see a decreases in customers numbers first.

we will try to keep it working (by adding js support) but that might take some time.
if you want jd support, you can contact their support
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Old 31.01.2011, 16:33
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The first answer from DF:
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Would you be so kind describe your problem in English
What the hell? They pretend to be international (you can choose "german" as the desired language) and what do I get?
I try it again in english - everyone should do that!
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Old 31.01.2011, 21:40
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plugin error (out of date)

happen with depositfiles.com

and I can't download those files

How can i solve ?

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Old 31.01.2011, 21:44
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Merged depositfiles threads!

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That's true James
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Old 31.01.2011, 23:53
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@danccm
It's simple.
We regexed the JS and replaced ( |\\+|\\') by "" (=remove them).
They just added extra JS.
I won't play their game.
It's up to depositfiles to chase their own users away and minimize their income by doing that;)

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Rather than trying to parse Depositfile's Javascript with regex, have you considered using an actual Javascript parser? For example, Rhino is an open source Javascript parser written in Java which you could use. And it's made by Mozilla so it likely is just as functional as the Javascript parser used in Firefox. Using this you could always extract the link. For Depositfiles to break functionality with JDownloaer if it used this they'd essentially also have to break functionality for all Firefox users (which they would never do).

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Old 01.02.2011, 12:14
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That remark has been made several times in the past, but it seems either to be too difficult or take too much time to integrate JS into jD yet.
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Old 01.02.2011, 13:21
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Well I guess they are really going to lose a lot of customers in this way. Not many people are going to accept solely downloading through the website, only those that occasionally need a file that happens to be on DF will do that.
People that are regularly downloading stuff from hosters such as DF, are usually going to use some download manager that is capable of downloading from all of them - which is what JD is.
Also, people who may not yet have an account but still download a lot of stuff (me, for instance) will normally consider buying an account if they turn out to be regularly downloading stuff from specific hosters. These people will most probably be totally turned off by these actions - which will probably mean an almost instant drop in customers once their accounts run out.
There are tons of other options to choose from and it is (1) the availability of content and (2) the I-like-you factor that keeps people at one or the other.
Depositfiles is going to feel this, and other hosters that are more sympathetic to their customers like primarily Filesonic, will only benefit from that. Once you're out of the game in this business, it's a vicious circle going down and down.

So I guess this is the revenge we're going to have. I for sure will try to finish my download queue by hand (hell it's there, why not get it) - but I'll never turn back. I think I won't be the only one.

And DF, if you're reading this (which is probable): think about it, get a good night's sleep - and maybe you will start treating (prospective) customers the way you need to. If not, go visit some "how to properly do business in the 21st century" class, maybe it will freshen up your mind.

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Old 01.02.2011, 14:02
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I think jD is important but not that important that all file hosts listen to the jD Team's advice.

DF is an old host - they actually were among the first OCHs - and they've never grown like some other hosts did. Since I'm monitoring their importance, DF has always been around position 200 in Alexa's traffic ranking. Since the beginning of 2010 they're continually losing traffic. Years ago I downloaded a lot from them, but in the last couple of years I haven't seen many links.

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Old 01.02.2011, 14:12
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I think jD is important but not that important that all file hosts listen to the jD Team's advice.

DF is an old host - they actually were among the first OCHs - and they've never grown like some other hosts did. Since I'm monitoring their importance, DF has always been around position 200 in Alexa's traffic rank. Since the beginning of 2010 they're continually losing traffic. Years ago I downloaded a lot from them, but in the last couple of years I haven't seen many links.
Well, actions like this seem to be the reason. This is what I would call a downwards slope. And yeah, JD is of course not the sole reason for that, I agree with you. It is more the attitude that is revealed by action like these that I'm referring to - JD is just a tool. But still, many of the people downloading from hosters are using JD or a comparable program.
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Old 01.02.2011, 14:55
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@all
Our developer ".bismarck" always fixed the plugin but he just told me that they keep changing...

This thread is now international and a sticky...

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Old 01.02.2011, 17:59
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This is the newest answer from DF:
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Last week the DepositFiles has updated the download forms. Reason of that was overloading of Service due to hacking activity. That includes methods to skip waiting timeouts, multiple and loop requests, direct downloads by different softwares and server scripts.
During above-mentioned updating DepositFiles team has done all possible to minimize influence on the users, who are using the service according to User Agreement (**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**). And as the result, we are providing the better level of service.
More over none of Gold users should be affected at all, except situation when the user uses some misconfigured 3rd party software.
In case you are free user and have faced problems, it could be due to one of following reasons:
1. The Java script is disabled on your browser.
2. You use the Service with installed not updated 3rd party software that is according to DepositFiles User Agreement (it should run in similar way like the site works).
3. The 3rd software that installed on your computer wrongly interferes with the system of data security of the website without permission from our side.

Possible solutions for above-mentioned cases correspondently:
1. The Java script should be enabled on your browser or You should use Gold account.
2. Contact support of 3rd party application regarding updates.
3. Disable (switch off) or uninstall misconfigured software.

We suppose that JDownloader issue is the same that is described in case #2.

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Upload files easier with new Depositfiles Filemanager with FTP upload function!
**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**

With best regards,
DepositFiles Team
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Old 01.02.2011, 18:24
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That's a LIE, their change was DIRECTLY against JDownloader, they were even so dumb and put the text "STOPJD" in their HTML source code...
If they want to lose their costumers they should continue this, if not they should stop it immediately!

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I'm curious: has anyone from the JD dev team ever officialy contacted depositfiles?

Mayhaps, they'd be forthcoming if you hear them out, perhaps giving their gold accounts acces, at the very least.
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Old 02.02.2011, 12:07
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Try to download, it should work right now.
I'm quite sure that coalado did already contact DF but still...it was their decision to lose users by changing the site against us.
Whatever, at the moment we don't have any news about this topic.

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That's true James
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Die Leute verstehen einfach nicht dass nur weil man mit einer Waffe auch auf Menschen schießen kann dass ein Schützenver​ein kein Ort für Amoklaufide​en ist
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Try to download, it should work right now.
It hasn't worked for me in days, and still doesn't work.

Although, I am curious, what exactly does forcing users to download through a browser do for DF? Is it simply a matter of reducing bandwidth?

As it's been already pointed out in this thread, such a policy will eventually bite them in the ass. Uploaders want to use the hosts that will give them the most downloads.
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Old 03.02.2011, 21:29
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Although, I am curious, what exactly does forcing users to download through a browser do for DF? Is it simply a matter of reducing bandwidth?
They change their page very often so that our plugin always breaks down...

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That's true James
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Die Leute verstehen einfach nicht dass nur weil man mit einer Waffe auch auf Menschen schießen kann dass ein Schützenver​ein kein Ort für Amoklaufide​en ist
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Old 04.02.2011, 00:34
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But what is in for them except chasing away their paying customers? It takes the same bandwidth and data volume, regardless of the downloading program being a browser or a tool like jD.
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