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Old 25.04.2013, 01:15
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maybe your situation illustrious us with some screenshots ...
adds the record the error before and after the deletion ...
this, in order to get a better idea of how to re-produce the error and corrected it completely ...
greetings and thanks for your feedback ...
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Old 25.04.2013, 02:13
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what's wrong with it, i think everyone is saying, is that it's really annoying having this robot telling you "oh noes! UR tryin 2 delete a link! omgwtf!?" every single time you remove a completed download. i'm really starting to hate that robot...

it was better the way it was before. only maybe one time in 50 do i want to remove the file as well as the link. i used to be able to go in the right-click menu and do "delete and... remove the file". the other 49 times it just quietly did what i wanted.

i know i can set it to "hide if 'ctrl' is not pressed". but now when i want to use the option once in a while, i have to use this unusual hotkey combination that i will never remember, instead of just going in the right-click menu and looking for it, which is much more intuitive. i understand you're trying to clean up the right-click menu, which is good, but i think this one was really not an improvement, as you can see by all the complaints.

by the way, it would have been helpful if that first-time dialog box told you _which_ advanced option you have to change. it took me forever to find it. then it took me forever to figure out that you have to double-click on the drop-down menu first, before you can single-click on it to select the option (someone else above had the same problem but didn't figure it out). so it's actually rather difficult for the average user to turn off this dialog.

one more thing, this new "ctrl" key option is even worse if you have a mac. first, the "delete" key on a mac doesn't work to delete a link in JD. so you have to use the right-click ("context") menu. well, the normal way to access that on a mac has always been to hold the "ctrl" key and click... (but that doesn't work in JD either, so you have to have a two-button mouse, or enable two-finger click on your trackpad, to even use JD). anyway it means that holding the ctrl key as a modifier while selecting something from the context menu is something that no normal mac program would ever do... and no mac user would remember to do, that one time out of 50, unless they wrote it on a sticky note stuck to their desk somewhere.

even if JD was fixed so the "delete" key on the mac worked, i would still prefer to have the "delete and remove file" option back in the right-click menu, rather than having to remember i need to press ctrl-delete instead, which is still for me an unusual hotkey that i probably won't remember.

anyway, don't mean to be all complainy, i just had to come here to figure this out, so i thought i'd give a couple of comments, hope it's helpful.
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Old 25.04.2013, 04:03
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yes, that's pretty stupid. what sense does it make to assume that the user already wants to delete files that have just been successfully downloaded?

also, the default value changes from container to container - for example, first container default is "keep files and just remove selected links ...", for the second container it's "delete downloaded files ...".

so, if one just checks the first "are you sure?" dialog, but just keeps clicking "delete" subsequently and assuming that just the links are removed, disaster strikes.

I don't mind re-downloading several GBs, but figuring out which files have accidentially been deleted is sometimes impossible.
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Old 25.04.2013, 04:12
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It's me who should get shot - according to your post... Thanks for that

"Remove Link from JDownloader only DO NOT delete anything from harddisk" is the first option in the dropdown list. It is default.
the default value changes from container to container. most of the time it is "remove link ..." but sometimes it is "remove from list and harddisk".

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And yes. JD does not remember your choice here. Because remembering anything that deletes files from harddisk would be bad.
it did present the "remove from harddisk" option occasionally, I lost quite a few files :-(
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Old 25.04.2013, 12:51
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if SHIFT is pressed, a delete files from harddisk/recycle option is preselected.
otherwise the first one is preselected.

@sumyungguy

Thanks for your feedback. I will review the whole delete action again.
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Old 25.04.2013, 13:08
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I propose to use submenu for the different deletions, and only one advanced setting : show delete dialog or no.
Maybe
Delete Link only (Del)
Delete Link and File (Ctrl Del)
Delete File only (Shift Del)

I prefer to avoid defaults in advanced settings, everyone can immediately see the possibilities.
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Old 25.04.2013, 13:09
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Sorry for that.
If you press shift while deleting, this means -> delete my files. Maybe this happened`?
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Old 25.04.2013, 16:36
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if I understood well ... since I'm not the Almighty ...

You want sometimes, just delete the links and keep the files ...

But other times, you want to delete the links and delete the files too ...

So if you choose one or the other option of JD2, leave it as the default, if you will get an undesired result with some links / files ...

I do not even want to say it probably will not be watching the robot all the time ...

I think this topic, but started differently, going in the direction of this other topic:
http://board.jdownloader.org/showthread.php?t=47586
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Old 25.04.2013, 16:40
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lol I hope not to complicate the issue ... but I might suggest that the key command to delete files / links, can be customized for each user, so there will be no complaints from a user or another, saying he does not remember which keys to press ...
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Old 25.04.2013, 16:42
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There are just too many complains about the new delete dialog. I will review it. There must be something wrong
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Old 26.04.2013, 01:44
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Yes there is something wrong with the dialog

I think most people me included liked the previous option press the delete key the link in jdownloader disappeared.

If you would like to mess around with it how about

Press "shift+ctrl - caps lock plus / key to delete a file"

or.............. do nothing and let us delete the file directly from our computers.

the reason i complained in the first place was not because by DEFAULT it was keep the file delete the link , it changes randomly from keep the file delete the link to delete the link and file.

thats just annoying and a waste of time period......

As i have said before it is a great program i love it but i do not believe changing something that was not broken was needed to be changed.
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Old 26.04.2013, 19:19
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I've set it to
"HIDE IF CTRL IS NOT PRESSED AND NEVER DELETE ANY LINKS FROM HARDDISK".

I thought that was the most I could get out of it, so every time I pressed the Delete-key it would delete the link but leave the file intact.

If I needed to delete the file, I had to press Ctrl+Delete-keys so that annoying window would pop-up asking me what to do with the link and file (and not remembering that I wanted to delete link+file every single last time, so I had to annyoingly re-select it again).
And this

*insertswearword* would pop-up afterwards too, every single time even though I ticked off the box saying "Don't show this again, I dare you, I double dare you!" (which also happened with other dialogue pop-ups in JD2 for me, it never saved the "never show again"-preference).

So after reading this thread, I find out Shift+Delete does exactly what I want, deleting links+files without any pop-ups coming up.
Great!
But that was seemingly no where or so poorly communicated, maybe it was in a patch note which are a PITA to read through because of how they're structured.
Why are there no separate, continuous change logs for plugin-updates and the program itself instead of this sidebar-mess which forces you to click on another version after every 5 lines of patch notes, lot of them being plugin-updates anyway?

I agree with bici-boci, you need 3 options and there is 1 key + 2 modifier keys easily accessible and I'd prefer it like this:
Delete link only - Delete
Delete link and file - Shift+Delete
Delete file only - Ctrl+Delete

And properly communicated to the end-user.
Optimum would be re-bindable shortcuts, but that's maybe overdoing it.
Just NO pop-ups.

Best regards,
Deuvv

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Old 26.04.2013, 21:10
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Thanks everybody for your help.

I found a bug that caused JD think shift/ctrl is pressed even if it was not pressed. (This happens if shift or ctrl is pressed when the JD window looses the fokus.)

Thus the Delete Files From Disk Preselection may be on delete from disk or delete to tray.

So be careful!


I will fix this as soon as possible.

Sorry for all problems.
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Old 24.07.2014, 12:12
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This is marked as solved, but it doesn't feel solved.

I'm completely uncomfortable with 'Delete' as a context option right now.
JD1 you right-clicked, hovered on Delete, and pop there are the 'Delete From List' & 'Delete From List & Disk'. Fast, concise and unambiguous.

At the moment if I select delete in JD2 I have no idea what is going to be removed, or if I'm going to get a robot spewing a paragraph of text at me.

This is not an improvement at all. Why was a change even made?
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Old 24.07.2014, 12:58
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CuF, because there are many more options than 'Delete From List' & 'Delete From List & Disk', and we cannot put a list of 20 different delete options in the menu.

Feel free to use the menu customizer to change the menu to whatever you want.

Spoiler:


All in all... this is an improvement for me.
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Old 24.07.2014, 20:02
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I don't see more than just 'Delete' available to add when customizing.
Certainly not 20 different options.

Last edited by CuF; 24.07.2014 at 23:30.
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Old 24.07.2014, 22:10
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Why don't you just customize it the way you like it and be fine with that?

GreeZ psp
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Old 24.07.2014, 23:31
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I would, but the options don't appear to be available in the customize list.
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Old 24.07.2014, 23:36
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GraphicalUserInterfaceSettings: Rly Warn Level --> HIGH
Try that.

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EDIT

ell I have it on normal and get the different delete options...
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Old 24.07.2014, 23:59
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Of course that just brings up Marvin the Paranoid Android.
Code:
Are you sure that you want to do this:
Delete Selected Links

1 Links(s) to delete  <-note the spelling error.  Should be Link(s)
1 Files(183.48 MB) on Disk <-should be File(s)
Links left in Downloadlist: 526 <- Should be Download list

(drop down box)
Keep all downloaded Files - just remove Links from JDownloader
Move downloaded Files to Trash & remove Links from JDownloader
Delete downloaded Files permanently from harddisk & remove Links from JDownloader
If you didn't bother to read what I just quoted above... I didn't either.
It's too much. How about
Are you sure?
(and 3 buttons)
'Delete Links', 'Delete Links and Files', 'Cancel'

I'm pretty sure I saw an option in the setting that was already something like "Move Delete Files to Recylce Bin". If it isn't there, it should be.

Of course the original sub-menu method was plenty streamlined and unambiguous.

Edit: I also noticed that if you set up JD2 to create a subfolder based on the package name, deleting the package does NOT delete the empty subfolder. It'd be nice if that returned.

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