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Old 01.05.2015, 13:10
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Wie genau funktioniert diese Brower Solver Geschichte eigentlich?
Ich dachte, da wird das bestehende Captcha einfach "besser" angezeigt, aber so wie ich das nun verstehe wird es sogar durch ein einfacheres ersetzt. Ist das korrekt?
Denn DAS wäre hilfreich....
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Old 01.05.2015, 14:18
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@Spawnie112: Natürlich werden da dann andere gezeigt. Siehst ja weiter oben einige Vergleiche. Durch die neuen Funktionen die wir gerade testen musst du meistens nur noch 3-4 Zahlen eingeben.
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Old 01.05.2015, 14:43
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Default It calls many browser windows with 127.0.0.1:24613/nitroflare.com?id URL

After last update the Jdownloader on every downloading item try to open browser window with this URL **External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff** (id could be changed).
Who can explain what is this and why is it possible and for what is that?
If I leave my PC working 24/7 I can see many the same pages in browser with this URLs — a pages is breeding like a rabbits (about more than 50 for last night).
As I can see the URL could be with any domain that you have in your download list:
/127.0.0.1:24613/uploaded.to?id= and etc.
It happens every time when download is starting. That's very annoying feature.
I have Win 7 x86 Ultimate.

Thanks in advance.

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About Jdownloader version:
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Old 01.05.2015, 15:20
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Hallo coalado,

ich wollte heute eigentlich etwas positives über die neuen Captchas Varianten schreiben. Es gibt zwar Probleme mit den Captcha-Solvers, aber generell sind die neuen Captchas eine Bereicherung, vor allem wenn man die Captchas per Hand löst.
Bevor ich zu den Problemen mit den Captcha-Solvers komme, dann doch erst mal zu dem Big-Problem. Ich habe über Nacht noch ein Paket herunterladen lassen. Captchas Variante - HSID/SID

Heute Morgen muss ich mit entsetzen feststellen, dass weder "Browser-Loop" noch "HSID/SID" funktionieren. Ich bekomme nur noch Standard-Captchas oder Hard-Captchas. Ist mein Google-Account jetzt verbrannt? Nach dem Abmelden, Löschen aller Cookies und neuer IP bekomme ich trotzdem nur noch Standard- oder Hard-Captchas.

Bei einem anderen Google-Account funktionieren noch alle Captcha-Varianten.


Jetzt noch zu dem Problem mit den Captcha-Solvers. Bei "Browser-Loop"-Captchas wird My.JDownloader direkt übersprungen. Und die "HSID/SID"-Captchas kann My.JDownloader gar nicht lösen. Bei 9kw.eu sind wohl zu wenige Mitglieder nachts aktiv. Es werden jedenfalls keine Captchas gelöst.
Und das führte dann wohl zu dem oben angeführten Big-Problem. In welcher Zeit läßt man am besten Captchas von 9kw.eu lösen? Gibt es bessere kostenlose Solver?

Die Probleme mit My.JDownloader können sicher noch geslöst werden. Aber was ist mit meinem Account bei dem ich nur noch Hard-Captchas bekomme. 24 Stunden warten? Ab wievielen fehlerhaften Captcha-Eingaben bekommt man die Hard-Captchas?

Viele Grüße,

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Old 01.05.2015, 16:09
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Woran erkenne ich, ob es richtig funktioniert?
Ich habs nun aktiv, FF schließt sich brav wieder, aber ich bekomme immer noch je 2 Wörter.
Auch wenn sie einfacher wirken.

Ich habe die Option BrowserCaptchaSolver: Browser Loop wieder aktiviert.
Diese hatte ich vorher ja abgeschaltet.
Wars das, oder muss ich mehr tun?
Kann man das testen?
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Old 01.05.2015, 17:35
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@hoobanger
Please read this thread! I've merged all common threads/posts into this one.
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Old 01.05.2015, 17:53
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Spawnie112; komm einfach mal in den Chat. Dann schau ich mir das an.
Und Prüfe auch im Browser. Wenn du im browser schon keine schönen Captchas kriegst, hilft weder der Browser Loop, noch der SID/HSID weg.
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Old 01.05.2015, 18:47
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@raztoki

Thanks for your reply, it's good I was able to reach the correct person. I can see why you've chosen to use the real browser to do the work that's hard to emulate and I think it's the right way to do. And the next logical step is to minimize the "visible impact" to the user. What I wanted to say is that PhantomJS is also essentially a real browser (that also lets you control its whole cookie jar btw) and it might do just as well while being completely unobtrusive to the user so maybe it's worth a try.
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Old 01.05.2015, 19:03
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@hoobanger
Please read this thread! I've merged all common threads/posts into this one.
Thank you, raztoki. I Got it.
In my case its need to ScriptSave Chrome plugin (same as NoScript) allow to the 127.0.0.1 page.

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Old 01.05.2015, 19:17
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Carbofos:

We know about PhantomJS. But it's not just about handling cookies and JS correctly.

For example:
Google uses the SID and HSID cookie. You get these cookies when you login with your google account at any google service. Whenever you visit a website that uses any of googles services (like adsense, analytics, g+, search, recaptcha, docs, js libraries,...) this cookie is used and sent to the google server. This enabled google to create a very good usage profile. If you do not use google services like most other people use them, you are not considered to be a human - at least for the google algorithm. That's why, we have to use the browser that you use every day to browse the internet. Using a different browser, or phantomjs would not help here. To minimize the visible impact, we would have to find a way to grab the latest cookies from your main browser.

Recaptcha v2 goes even further and collects a full browser environment fingerprint. As far as I know, Phantomjs is not yet capable of solving the v2 version.
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Old 01.05.2015, 20:20
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Hallo coalado,

kannst du dir mal meinen Beitrag anschauen.

Der Browser-Solver und zugehörige Optionen sind wohl noch nicht implantiert.

Ich habe verschiedene Optionen die in der Hilfe "JD opens my browser to display captchas" angezeigt werden getestet. Folgende Einstellungen funktionieren scheinbar gar nicht.

BrowserCaptchaSolver: Auto Click
BrowserCaptchaSolver: Auto Open Browser
BrowserCaptchaSolver: Enabled

Mit der letzten kann man zwar den Browsersolver an- und abschalten doch sonst ist nicht viel vom ihm zu sehen. Siehe Hilfe: "2) The Browser Solver

The browsersolver approach will show the captcha in the browser, and will ask you to solve it in the browser. After solving, the browser window will close itself, and JD will continue."

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Old 01.05.2015, 20:29
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@hoobanger
thanks for feedback.
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Old 01.05.2015, 20:58
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Dear JDownloader team,

I do not read German so I couldn't understand the current thread. But...

This new browser loop feature is AMAZING!
You made something I would not have thought of: it is out-of-the-box initiative and it is outbreaking.

Thank you for it!
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Old 01.05.2015, 21:06
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@Amour

Thankyou, glade you like my idea, our over all implementation.

BTW this parent thread (International) allows for mixed languages, currently in this thread it contains Spanish, German, and English (think that's it). Google translate may benefit you, but most things are covered in those given languages. so if you scroll over the entire thread you should find what you need!
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Old 01.05.2015, 21:18
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Hightower:
Liest bitte meine Antwort an Carbofos durch.

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Bei "Browser-Loop"-Captchas wird My.JDownloader direkt übersprungen.
Der Auto Solver von My.Jdownloader wird übersprungen. Der kann diese Captchas noch nicht.

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Aber was ist mit meinem Account bei dem ich nur noch Hard-Captchas bekomme. 24 Stunden warten? Ab wievielen fehlerhaften Captcha-Eingaben bekommt man die Hard-Captchas?
Liest bitte meine Antwort an Carbofos durch.nDa hilft nur diesen Account ganz normal zu nutzen... und dann heilt die Zeit alle Probleme.
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Old 01.05.2015, 22:20
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Hi,
today when I updated my JD2 if has new features for capchas, open in browser to make it simple.

I agreed to that but not really liking it, may I know how to disable it again?
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Old 01.05.2015, 22:34
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@kom
If you disable it you will get the "bad" reCaptcha captchas again.
However, it is all explained here:
https://support.jdownloader.org/inde...splay-captchas
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Old 01.05.2015, 22:41
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But my browser never auto close, and the there will be many tabs for captchas.
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Old 01.05.2015, 22:42
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Which browser do you use?
If you use firefox: See the linked article for instructions on how to fix this for Firefox
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I use chrome.
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