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Old 23.05.2021, 16:30
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Default Mediafire downloads slower, with JD

It is a problem that I thought it was hard disk related at first, but now I discovered that it isn´t

I have just realized that downloading from mediafire with JD, is slower than downloading it with other programs, like FREE DOWNLOAD MANAGER.

I tried these 2 links for example, and downloaded them with JD and FDM, each one configured to download 11 chunks at a time.

**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**



With JD, I only get speeds between 6-16 MB/s

With FMA, I get speeds between 22-32 MB/S

I assume then, that this happens with any other mediafire link as well.

Sadly, I am unable to test the straight HTTPS links with JD, due to the program now detects them as ordinary Mediafire links.
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Old 23.05.2021, 16:45
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I get same speed for single connection with Browser and JDownloader, about max 950-1000kb/s.
With 11 connections I get about 10-12Mb/s
Please check/confirm shown speed with help of Taskmanager and use the network graph. Shown speed might use different "average" calculations.

Are you downloading as free or premium user?
You can test direct https links by adding direct h t t p:// in front of the direct URL (remove the spaces)
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Old 23.05.2021, 17:02
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I get same speed for single connection with Browser and JDownloader, about max 950-1000kb/s.
With 11 connections I get about 10-12Mb/s
Please check/confirm shown speed with help of Taskmanager and use the network graph. Shown speed might use different "average" calculations.

Are you downloading as free or premium user?
You can test direct https links by adding direct h t t p:// in front of the direct URL (remove the spaces)

Mediafire has no speed limits either for free or pro/business users. The limits are applied in other features.

And no, in case of Mediafire, the https links (which come from that site, the ones you get if you copy the url linked to the download button), are detected as ordinary Mediafire links

What I mean is that for JD, this

**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**

Is equal to this

**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**


That is something that JD did not use to do, in the past.

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Old 24.05.2021, 16:48
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And no, in case of Mediafire, the https links (which come from that site, the ones you get if you copy the url linked to the download button), are detected as ordinary Mediafire links
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You can test direct https links by adding direct h t t p:// in front of the direct URL (remove the spaces)
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Old 24.05.2021, 16:49
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I get same speed for single connection with Browser and JDownloader, about max 950-1000kb/s.
With 11 connections I get about 10-12Mb/s
Please check/confirm shown speed with help of Taskmanager and use the network graph. Shown speed might use different "average" calculations.
Any freedback on this?
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Old 04.06.2021, 15:42
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Sorry for the delay. I have just changed my ISP and hired a new 1 Gbit optic fiber internet service.

How do I do what you say? Because I cannot find the option in JDOWNLOADER.
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Old 04.06.2021, 16:27
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You can test the same link in browser by just appending
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d i r e c t h t t p://
in front of URL. (remove the spaces)
And also compare the speed shown in windows taskmanager/network graph. I was unable to reproduce any difference between JD and browser/other tool
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Old 29.06.2021, 00:47
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You can test the same link in browser by just appending

in front of URL. (remove the spaces)
And also compare the speed shown in windows taskmanager/network graph. I was unable to reproduce any difference between JD and browser/other tool
I think I managed to find out, what the problem is.

Mediafire allows accesing to links, through HTTP and HTTPS mode. The download from the latter, is faster than downloading a file through a HTTP link.

While decrypting the links from a folder, JDOWNLOADER gets http links instead of the HTTPS ones, and thus, it downloads them at a slower speed.

I have tested this, downloading 5 files at a time, with 15 chunks each. The HTTP links got me a speed that sums up up to 45 MB/S, while a get speeds between 53-57-63 MB/s, through the HTTPS ones.

Still quite far from the speed I should get, considering my internet connection, although I think that this would be a limit of my Hard Disk.

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Old 29.06.2021, 12:34
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I wasn't able to find any differences either (but my Internet is so slow - I can't max it out like you can).

Also in the case of mediafire.com, JD always gets the final download-URLs via https.
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Old 29.06.2021, 12:55
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@baronluigi: To me this sounds like typical firewall/av caused issue. technical http should be faster than https because https has encryption overhead in bandwidth and cpu usage.
Also the final download URLs are https for JDownloader, at least for free download. I could not test premium due to lack of an account.

Are you downloading without any account or with free/premium account?
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Old 13.07.2021, 01:51
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Sorry for taking me so long to answer.

To be honest, I think that it can be something related to both things.

I tested downloading 6 files at a time with several chunks each, in 2 different ways:

- Just by automatically grabbing the links with jdownloader
- Or accessing to each page, grabbing the https link that the site generates and pasting it to jdownloader.

At the same time, I configured my firewall to give absolute freedom to JDOWNLOADER.

The results are way better in the second way (just pasting the https link one by one, and downloading all of them at the same time). I was able to download at fast speeds as 78 MB/S for several seconds.
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Old 13.07.2021, 10:24
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Can you please provide a debug log for both tries?
Enable Settings->Advanced Settings->Log.debugmodeenabled and restart JDownloader
then do test downloads with both ways and create log, see https://support.jdownloader.org/Know...d-session-logs
and post the shown logID.

I'm still unable to reproduce any speed difference and still think this is somehow connected to your setup/system

I can also offer a Teamviewer session, so we can take a look at this together. Just contact me via support@jdownloader.org
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Old 13.07.2021, 11:47
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Are you a mediafire poweruser?
E.g. how much data are you downloading from MF per day?
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Old 13.07.2021, 15:18
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As i previously mentioned, Mediafire (in theory) does not have any download caps for free users.



Anyways, if such cap existed, I would get similar speeds, no matter what program I used. This is not the case.

I will try doing further test, whenever I have some free time. My apologies.

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Old 13.07.2021, 15:19
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As i previously mentioned, Mediafire (in theory) does not have any download caps for free users.
Yes I know but a lot of websites have some kind of "fair use limits".

Google Drive for example also claims that there are no limits but in fact there are some to e.g. prevent high traffic from popular shared files.

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Old 13.07.2021, 15:25
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@baronluigi: *with ad-supported downloads* -> they still can detect JDownloader and treat it different than downloads in browser.
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Old 13.07.2021, 15:59
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@baronluigi: *with ad-supported downloads* -> they still can detect JDownloader and treat it different than downloads in browser.
Well, that would explain why I am getting better speeds, if I just download from the links I get by accessing to the page through you web browser (where the download button is).


PS: I know that google drive has limits. In fact, they have 2 limits, according to what kind of account the files are uploaded to. Files hosted in free accounts can be perfectly accesed anytime, as long as you get to the links while being logged in a google account.
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Old 13.07.2021, 16:05
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I still believe your speed differences are not connected to JDownloader and caused by something else on system/setup.
I still could not reproduce and noticable speed difference
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Old 14.07.2021, 13:14
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Well, that would explain why I am getting better speeds, if I just download from the links I get by accessing to the page through you web browser (where the download button is).
Not really.
Also:
Are you using an adblocker in your browser or not?

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Files hosted in free accounts can be perfectly accesed anytime, as long as you get to the links while being logged in a google account.
No there are even more limits.
Some files can't be downloaded at all for some time until the fair use quota (which no one is able to see) recovers.
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Old 14.07.2021, 13:28
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Not really.
Also:
Are you using an adblocker in your browser or not?


No there are even more limits.
Some files can't be downloaded at all for some time until the fair use quota (which no one is able to see) recovers.
I never seen that happening in a free account, though I have seen it in files hosted in Google One.

And no. Normally I don´t block the ads while using mediafire. However, I cannot understand how would they be able to limit the speed, cause the https link I get is the same wether I block the ads or not.

I must apologize as well because even if I am not getting the maximum speed my ISP offers, downloading at speeds between 52-57 MB/S is not bad either. But as I told you some messages before, I was able to get some glimpses of 78 MB/S

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