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Old 02.04.2018, 00:24
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Cool Downloads tab - Add Category left side panel

It would be good if jdownloader can add feature of being able to organise our downloads into categories.

So my suggestion is to add a

left side panel - categories on the download tab

In it, it can have these lists

All downloads
Apps
Books
Games
Images
Music
Video

By Default when we add new links/packages from linkgrabber tab
all links/packages show up in in the "All downloads" list

We can also use the packagizer rules etc, to auto sort those packages into the lists above based on the filetype etc.

We can also add custom lists

This category feature is seen in many other download managers
which makes sorting and organizing links/packages more manageable.


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Old 04.04.2018, 11:04
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You can use packagizer to auto package your links either in packages with such sorted names or use the comment field to store such *category* information
and then you can filter via package name/comment.
Basically everything needed already exists. Just no pre-defined *categories*.
There is already a filetype column available in list. I will add filter for that column too, so you can quick filter to file type
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Old 04.04.2018, 12:17
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You can use packagizer to auto package your links either in packages with such sorted names or use the comment field to store such *category* information
and then you can filter via package name/comment.
Basically everything needed already exists. Just no pre-defined *categories*.
There is already a filetype column available in list. I will add filter for that column too, so you can quick filter to file type
Yes, I know you can use packagizer but it is still a mess and disorganise

The problem with the current method is, it is more like a dump everything (packages + links into one window list) which creates a big mess and disorganised.

Example of what I mean is this..

Example 1 :
I created some package rules "Books" to grab links into file type : pdf, epub
So it has created a package called Books

But the problem is the link grabber could have grab more links packages from other sources and other stuff which then clutter the entire Download list window when I move those packages over

So in Download list there could be these packages
-Books
-abc package
-cde package
-efg package

so on and on...

So the Download list is clutter with the Books package plus alot of other packages..

If there was the categories window, when I click Books category
I will only see all packages that is in the Books category, no other packages.

Example 2
Package "Games" could grab links from xyz website and put those Rar part1, part2 etc links into "Games" package

but say a game "Doom 6" had 20 rar files X 5 hosters = 100 links in Games package

Then as I keep grabbing other games e.g Far Cry = 100 links, Half Life 3 = 100 links etc..

So just 3 games, has a total of 300 links in the Games package.

Now when I click on the "Game" package (+) icon, to expand it
it will be a really long scroll to see all the links.

Imagine if you had 10 games = 1000 links in the Games package etc..

Also I would need to put in the package "games" rule, all the websites that I
may visit so it can grab it.
This is rarely known all the time...

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With the categories feature..

Normally when we grab all links for Doom game,
it would automatically create a Doom package with all the rar parts + hosts

Far cry would have a package called Far Cry etc..

And then with the categories feature
it would be put inside a Games category list

So when we click Games category
I would only see these packages and no other packages
-Doom
-Far Cry
-Half Life 3

This is much more organised and less messy.

This is basically a paradigm shift

where the current method is more like a dump everything (packages + links) in one huge list window

versus..

using the categories lists window
which would only show the packages that are placed in that category.

I hope you can see what I mean with these examples
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You could either add prefixes like
[EBOOK] name
[GAME] name
and later filter on the prefix of package name
or store the category information within the comment field and use filter on comment then

of course we could add a new column category as well but that's lot of work (GUI, table framework, sorting, packagizer and also settings to define your own categories). That's why we first try to find a solution that avoids adding new features
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Old 04.04.2018, 13:30
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You could either add prefixes like
[EBOOK] name
[GAME] name
and later filter on the prefix of package name
or store the category information within the comment field and use filter on comment then

of course we could add a new column category as well but that's lot of work (GUI, table framework, sorting, packagizer and also settings to define your own categories). That's why we first try to find a solution that avoids adding new features
I have actually been implementing the packagize rules e.g. Books etc. (for a while now) that you mention
and another problem with which I forgot to mention is this

Example 3.
While we have grabbed pdfs which created "Books" package
it has auto added it to the download lists
then we grab some more pdfs later on then another "Books" package gets created and added to the download list etc..

So after a while in our downloads list
we could have this..

Books
Books
Books
Books
Games
Games
abc package

Now we need to expand all the books package to find the books that we want to download first
and our download lists is very cluttered and a mess.

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Prefix and comment field suggestion does not solve the problem of example 2
where Games package can contain 100's of links which is very difficult to scroll through.

And by default, it is still cluttered from Example 1.

Having categories panel solves Example 1 and example 2 problem.

Yeah you can use prefixes
I already do
e.g. I do this "_Games" etc..
and you can also add comment field like you said but this takes more effort
to filter each time we want to see another category

Since we need to move the mouse over to the
-filter selection box,
-click and scroll to "comments"
-Move mouse over to the text box
-Type filter .e.g "Games"
-Then if we want another filter, delete the previous text, then type another new filter e.g. "Books"

This is alot more effort then simply clicking "Games" then clicking "Books" category.
Then if I want to see all packages and links
Click "All downloads"

As you can see if we need to do this alot, it needs alot more effort with first method, it will be less used vs second method...

Pointing and clicking with a mouse (second method) is faster than..
Pointing and clicking with a mouse + scroll + typing (first method)


The current method is exactly like only have a single window list
"All downloads" vs having many windows of the categories windows based on what category is clicked.

I understand that to implement this would take a quite lot of work
but hopefully you can see that implementing this would greatly improve the UI of JDownloader and make it more better and easier to organise and less messy..

You do not need to implement everything immediately..e.g. (Custom list, sorting, packagizer) can be a lower priority)

Just the main feature of categories left panel window with the main items most people sort into
ie. Compressed, Games, Music, Video, Documents, Programs, Images, Other

Then for now, we can manually sort it ourselves, until you implement the other features (sorting, packagizer)..

Also you do not need to do this now, but maybe for a later UI revamped e.g. JD3 etc..(after all JD is an ever evolving software)

Hope you can keep my suggestion in the mind or added to the bugtracker feature request for JD3 etc..
since I believe adding the categories panel will be the next evolution of JD.

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