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Old 27.03.2015, 10:45
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Hi,
Having a lot of links from NitroFlare, only seldom do they display the correct captcha. When they do, JD is usually able to solve it automatically. Yet most of the time, the displayed captcha is from a different type than the one challenged via a web browser (specifically - chrome).

For example, the following link:
**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**
shows in JD a captcha of this kind:
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And in Chrome of this kind:
Captcha-browser.png

BTW, a similar issue has been reported before, but has been closed (without a fix?) because it's not related to JD. (??)
https://board.jdownloader.org/showthread.php?t=58191

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Old 27.03.2015, 10:57
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as discussed on the forum in other threads, they use javascript hackery to give easier recaptcha images in browser.
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Old 27.03.2015, 15:37
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They use complex js stuff to detect "good guy browser" user from "good tool/bad hacking tool) user. We do not have time to "hack" their system and if we or any one other would start/publish a way it will become cat and mouse game and google will always win
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Old 27.03.2015, 16:10
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* Sometimes it helps to change the IP address but thats all at the moment!
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Old 27.03.2015, 18:16
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Dear Sirs,
since yesterday the nitroflare captchas have become hard to decipher even by humans. I strongly suspect that the things are related to JD2 because on the nitroflare web site captchas are still much more recognisable.
If I am not wrong, that had been occurring many months ago, but it had fixed readily some time later. Any explanation for this odd phenomenon?
Thanks in advance

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Old 27.03.2015, 19:16
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There is not much we can do about it - everything is explained here:
https://board.jdownloader.org/showth...ight=reCaptcha
Short answer: The captchas come from google: Ask them to change them or ask nitroflare to use another captcha type instead of the current reCaptcha.

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Old 27.03.2015, 20:38
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that is sad to read... anyway, thanks for JD/JD2 support!
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Old 30.03.2015, 18:55
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Estoy descargando enlaces de nitroflare, que en la web presentan unos captchas muy sencillos (números muy legibles) pero que si los añado a JD me presentan unos captchas diabólicos de dos palabras super enmascaradas casi imposibles de leer, y ademas me los reinicia durante ciclos de 1 minuto, un montón de veces antes de empezar a descargar, y a veces sin conseguirlo. A alguién más le pasa? se puede resolver? Gracias
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https://board.jdownloader.org/showthread.php?t=44803
See point #5
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@mashima
¿Necesitas alguna traducción? - Por si acaso no hay algo claro, por supuesto.

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Old 03.04.2015, 11:11
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Thank you, Muchas gracias Lram32, pspszockerscene, y disculpad por haber planteado la pregunta. Veo que ya estaba respondida en las captcha faq.

Se trata del punto 5, referido a las recaptcha de Google. Miraré lo que dice sobre el proxy/VPN pero creo que no es el caso, aunque en mi red sí que tenemos una configuración rara con un ruter sirviendo a otro router. Lo miraré a ver.

Muchas gracias

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Old 06.04.2015, 02:35
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Enterado, no hay problema

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Old 10.04.2015, 02:12
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Not sure if this is the right place but the title looks right, although unfortunately I only read english.

Ok the problem is or may be another captcha related issue though that seems to be associated with jdownloader 2 at least ....

What I have found over the past four days is that for any file from nitroflare.com is not able to download for free users without a whole lot of trouble ....

The captcha that pops up through jdownloader is a terrible black and white with characters that one can barely read at all, similar to but, worse most of the time and even when one can read them, the captcha input is never taken properly.

The captcha's from their web site are totally different also and readable and do take with out any problem for free users. these are similar to this and this http://i.imgur.com/W2WprUp.png

Yes I also read the Captcha FAQ - English pointed to earlier in this post and yes i understand why some are this way or that way but, considering the differences between what is being seen in JDownloader versus their web site, to me it seems there is an issue with JD grabbing the wrong captcha or translating the captcha wrong some how from their web site.

Below are 11 links for your pleasure to test with.
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**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**
**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**
**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**
**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**
**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**
**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**
**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**
**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**
**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**
**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**
**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**

IF a mod wishes to move this to a better place or new topic then please do so.

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As I can't see to just select and copy and paste from the about window for jdownloader 2 let me know if you need any source revision #'s.
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Old 10.04.2015, 17:15
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Have you actually read the captcha FAQ??
https://board.jdownloader.org/showthread.php?t=44803
Here is a quote of myself:
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Google has complex algorithms to differ between humans and bots and unfortunately even for us it is hard to break them so Google will often recognize JDownloader as a bot (which is correct) thus sending harder-to-solve captchas than via browser.
Google does allow other applications to display their captchas but treats them as BOTs.
That is all.
Now you can still say it is a JD issue but it is NOT!
Ask google to make easier bot-captchas or ask nitroflare to change their captcha type!

It is NOT our fault!
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Old 30.04.2015, 12:38
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hey Geniuses! you did it again, seems to be solved.
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Old 27.04.2015, 02:58
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Angry Uploaded - New captcha type requires real browser??????

Hi,
I just updated JD2. And now, when I launch a uploaded.net / uploaded.to download, I have these popup ! I use 9KW captcha solver, and with this, IMPOSSIBLE to pass captcha...


On an other machine, update was not made, and downloads works perfectly with 9kw captcha resolutions... So what is this feature / update ? I don't want this, it blocks download with captcha...
When I try to disable it (here) :

download doesn't want to start, can't send his captcha to 9kw or other and stay on "starting" !!! :


Why is there this f****** problem ?

Thank in advance
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Old 27.04.2015, 06:15
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@olivier7599
maybe coalado made a mistake committing that last night, I'll revert his changes so old captcha solver will work. We do have a way to pass into CES from the new solver but its not quite ready yet, but it does have some restrictions/issues.
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Old 27.04.2015, 09:51
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It's OK !
I updated JD and now it work perfectly

Big thank for your work
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Old 30.04.2015, 00:04
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problem is new present ... since the update few hours ago...
Auto solver with myjdownloader captcha is not used. Browser open automatically and doesn't close. After few second, because no respond, 9kw is called, and resolved. But browser still open, and one tab is opened for each captcha...
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Old 30.04.2015, 02:54
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Please post a log and more info (especially about your browser).
As far as I know tabs/windows should auto-close.
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Old 30.04.2015, 04:48
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There are some known issues, like if you using browser extension noscript, and if you use firefox there are some issues when tabs/window doesn't auto close, we have made a support article. Please see https://support.jdownloader.org/inde...splay-captchas
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Old 30.04.2015, 09:36
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How to disable this function? I have the "Dialog in the browser" captcha method disabled and it still opens my default browser without asking and no way to stop it.
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Old 30.04.2015, 09:53
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bugnotme:
There are 2 different types of browser solvers: Please Read https://support.jdownloader.org/inde...splay-captchas
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@coalado thanks, haven't seen that one.
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bugnotme: Please let me know why you do not want this browser thingy?
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Old 30.04.2015, 12:40
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It's annoying and very inconvenient for the people like me that mostly use JD when they are not in front of the PC or use it on a different PC that they access over remote desktop software only when they have to.

P.S. I use IE as default browser and another one as main exactly because I don't want software to open browsers and access the net without my permission/knowledge thus IE is set as default denied access to the net.
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Ok. I understand.
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Yeah i have similar Issue with uploaded atm. When captcha comes it opens Browser (FF) opens a new tab for captcha and instantly closes that Tab. Thats annoying.
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Old 30.04.2015, 12:57
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This new feature uses the browser to show easier captchas.

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Read this:https://support.jdownloader.org/inde...splay-captchas
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coalado: We know that. and THAT is not our Issue.
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It's easier when you are using the computer to manually solve it, but when you are using an automated or remote system it is much more inconvenient.

P.S. It might be a better idea to make an plugin/addon that have the necessary functionality to do that instead of depending on the systems browser and let the user decide what to use (none as default, system browser or addon/plugin). I believe there was a few such programs including one Mozilla based.

[EDIT] Here are a few links that might help if I'm correctly understanding the issue:
**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff** (developed in Java)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...Script_engines
**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**

Or maybe you can try embedding the Gecko (**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**) if I misunderstood and you need more than JavaScript.

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@bugmenot && Arandur

We wouldn't have used browser unless we thought it was required/best method. writing support like we have in the past breaks all the time when google changes stuff. This way they change how the API works on the backend it still work going forward.

with recaptcha2 support was breaking once or twice a week and its annoying to maintain something that will just break in a few days. This way its effectively behaving just like any other site that uses this service.

right now recaptchav2, areyouahuman, sweetcaptcha, and shortly confidentcaptcha are only available via this new Browser solver.

The other benefit to using this new browser solver is you get access to audio components instead of images for those are visually impaired.

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Hallo zusammen
Ich habe heute ein Update des JDs gemacht. Dieses beinhaltete eine neue Cature erkennung. Dialog in Browser..... Nun geht mein Firefox auf und es wird mir ein Capture angezeigt. Auf der Seite steht weiterhin das sich das Fenster in ein paar Sekunden wieder Schliessen wird. Dieses tut es aber nicht. Es werden ständig neue Tabs mit Captures geöffnet ohne das auch nur eines wieder geschlossen wird. In den Einstellungen kann ich zwar den Hacken entfernen um diese Art der Erkennung zu deaktivieren, doch dieses bleibt ohne Erfolg. Auch bei deaktiviertem Dialogdienst werden weiterhin die Captures im Browser geöffnet. Die anderen Methoden werden gar nicht mehr beachtet.
Zu meinem System:
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Wie kann ich dieses beheben?
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Old 29.04.2015, 16:40
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Same here.
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Old 29.04.2015, 17:03
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We use this browser workaround to show you captchas that are much easier to read and solve.

In your case, it seems that this does not work fine yet.

You can

1) Join our chat for a teamviewer session. This way I could check what's wrong and make it working.

2) Disable this new feature in the advanced options: BrowserCaptchaSolver: Browser Loop
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Old 29.04.2015, 19:12
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2) Disable this new feature in the advanced options: BrowserCaptchaSolver: Browser Loop
Ich habe das gleiche Problem hier. JD reagiert nicht auf die Deaktivierung. Die Captures werden weiterhin parallel im Browser, wie im Captcha-Fenster angezeigt. Auch nach einem Neustart von JD.

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Old 29.04.2015, 19:16
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Shemy nutzt du firefox? Falls ja:
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:blink: wer hat den Advanced Settings mit Profieinstellungen übersetzt?

Ich wusste gar nicht das sich unter dem Namen noch mehr befindet. Nachdem ich das Browser Loop nun gefunden und deaktiviert habe ist Ruhe.
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@Shemy
Vorschläge dazu saind gerne willkommen, jedenfalls bemühen wir uns, realitätsnahe Übersetzungen zu finden und dabei müssen auch manchmal die englischen Übersetzungen nochmals geändert werden.
Der schuldige ist...ha jetzt hab ich dich gerettet unser deutscher Übersetzer
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