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Old 19.10.2013, 20:27
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The latest Java update from Apple for 10.6.8 is Java for Mac OS X 10.6 Update 17

Even though it says "17" it's not 1.7

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Old 19.10.2013, 20:30
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Make a upgrade from the older Version of JD. (0.9.581)
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Old 19.10.2013, 20:31
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Make a upgrade from the older Version of JD. (0.9.581)
What?
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Old 19.10.2013, 21:09
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OK, So I went to the last application back-up of 30 August 2013. And replaced the new broken version with that older version. Then I turned off my internet so it couldn't update. Started it. Turn off update. Then turned on my internet.

So far it seems to be working

It says "1229 updates are available"

Also if I go to About JDownloader it says "-last09- Version 0.9.581"

So the new version that doesn't work is the same version number of an older version that does?

While that doesn't make much sense. Either whatever was broken yesterday should be fixed in a new update, or the previous version should be put up for download.

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Old 19.10.2013, 21:16
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I'm having the same freezing issue on OSX Lion (10.7.5) and want to let people know that the recommendation upthread to install Oracle Java (I tried with the latest, 1.7.0_45-b18) to replace Apple Java (1.6) does not fix the problem, at least for me. JDownloader (-last09- Version 0.9.581) still freezes up. Wanted to let people know that, because if you install Oracle Java you can no longer use Java in the Chrome browser, which is a hassle (because Java 1.7 is 64-bit and Chrome is 32-bit).

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Old 19.10.2013, 21:27
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Make a upgrade from the older Version of JD. (0.9.581)
As for me, let me put it simple (since I'm not very good in english ;-) )

Tried with 0.9.579 and 0.9.581 :
proper uninstall, reboot, then install, reboot, then :
-update => no JD
-no update => no rereading of .jdc and no correct linkgrabber

Just 24h ago, every thing was fine, nothing else changed on my computer,
don't understand what happened, what to do...

And, last but not leats, except the present problem of the new update, can you explain me why, after uninstalling everything, when I install the version I always use for first install on a computer it doesn't work anymore? Did JDownloader update changed anything in the java system files or else?

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Old 19.10.2013, 21:43
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I'm still using os x 10.5.8 [T_T] and have Java ver 1.6.0_26...
JD was still working perfectly until the last update, now it just freezes all the time.
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Old 19.10.2013, 22:16
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And, last but not leats, except the present problem of the new update, can you explain me why, after uninstalling everything, when I install the version I always use for first install on a computer it doesn't work anymore? Did JDownloader update changed anything in the java system files or else?
Do you mean a version before yesterday's update? Make sure that auto update is turned off.

I think part of the confusion is that it seems like the old working and new broken version have the same version number.

So I don't know if the version now available for download is the older working version or the newer broken version. If it's the latest version, then that's why it doesn't work. If it's an older version that doesn't work, then that is a different problem.

I'm under the impression that JD2 needs Java 1.7. Although the installer should be smart enough to tell the user that.
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Old 19.10.2013, 22:38
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OK, So I went to the last application back-up of 30 August 2013. And replaced the new broken version with that older version. Then I turned off my internet so it couldn't update. Started it. Turn off update. Then turned on my internet.

So far it seems to be working

It says "1229 updates are available"

Also if I go to About JDownloader it says "-last09- Version 0.9.581"

So the new version that doesn't work is the same version number of an older version that does?

While that doesn't make much sense. Either whatever was broken yesterday should be fixed in a new update, or the previous version should be put up for download.
Great idea! Working fine now (so far). I had to go back to May 2013. Time Machine... great invention! Thank you mark909, I was going crazy.
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Old 19.10.2013, 22:41
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If it's an older version that doesn't work, then that is a different problem.
yes, except that it worked fine before I made this new update. In clear, even after uninstalling anything, I can't have my old version (old exe file that I always used and that had always been ok, with no problem) working correctly.
Do I have to delete some hidden files, registry entries, reinstall java? I don't know, but the last update in addition to not working made something that prevent me to have my older version working correctly now...
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Old 19.10.2013, 23:01
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I downgraded jD earlier today (see my previous message).
I currently run -last09- Version 0.9.581 (this increment doesn't seem to change after yesterday's updates) and 779 updates are available and waiting again...
Right now, I installed Java SE 6 1.6.0_65-b14-462 through software update.
Everything's fine with jD.

The bug came definitely within yesterday's jD updates...
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Old 19.10.2013, 23:02
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Default Same Freezing after a dew seconds

JD worked fine until today - did the 1220 updates last night and has been trouble ever since ...

Running latest MAC software but didn't update the Java yet - as last time was a disaster for JD install as well.

If you don't have a solution for tomorrow, then can you show us where we download the older (working) version and lets all get going again please??

Thanks for all your help!
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Old 19.10.2013, 23:14
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So I downloaded JD2. The installer appears to install a new runtime environment, then it says it will take me to install4j wizard, and then nothing. I can't seem to find it on my hard drive either.

What are the system requirements for JD2? Oddly, there is nothing on the main download page. I've tried searching here, but still can't find it.
same here.... jd2 hangs on wizard
thought I'd leave v1 behind with the new problems but can't get v2 to load
glad I'm not the only one but also as to what to do next.... wait for update that doesn't break?
thnx

if this helps:
http://jdownloader.org/pastebin/116321

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Old 20.10.2013, 02:15
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Great idea! Working fine now (so far). I had to go back to May 2013. Time Machine... great invention! Thank you mark909, I was going crazy.
I'm afraid i was wrong. After plugin automatic updating JDownloader crashes again. Does anyone know how to avoid plugin update?

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Old 20.10.2013, 03:12
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I'm another one with the same issue. Jdownloader freezes after today's update. I have to keep force quitting it when I add links, or start the download, until it will eventually work.
For every download, I am having to force quit it about 3 times. I don't have a convenient backup and i would like to also request access to the prior version or a very quick update to 0.9.581 which fixes this issue. It is the Jdownloader update which is the problem. I am on mac 10.6.8 and java 1.6 and cannot update java to 1.7, but even if I could, it apparently does not fix the problem.
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Old 20.10.2013, 03:54
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Yep, it's an epic mess...

Everything was fine, even after the recent java update for mac osx, it's the JD updates that have turned the app into almost useless. It hangs constantly, the window becomes blank, the downloads hang...

OSX 10.8.5 / iMac

What a shame...
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Old 20.10.2013, 05:46
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As noted by others, I am on Mac running OS 10.6.8 with the latest version of Java from Apple that will run on this OS (Java 1.6.0_65). Jdownloader has become unusable, with frequent freezes when no interaction with the app is occurring. I also would like to download the previous version of JDownloader if it is available.

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Old 20.10.2013, 10:58
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Hi JD Support Team

Can you make available the previous version of JD instead for now until you identify the problem please?

Running Mac OS 10.7.5 and the older Java 10.6 - not upgrading java ...

Thanks guys
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Old 20.10.2013, 11:49
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Sorry Guys but using the beta JD2 version is not an option.

fix the bugs in the stable tree and roll out updates after testing.

it's a shame for jdownloader to release such buggy updates. another same for jdownloader is that it is only available in java. why not using another programming language? java is known for weak or non sercurity and incompatibility for one update to the next.

so please fix this and to not point the people to beta software! this software will not run on older OS X.
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Old 20.10.2013, 11:50
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Default Old version.

The problem with downloading an older version (I did) is that it automatically grabs up the updates (It thinks they are important) and that starts the cycle all over again...


Unchecking the [ ] Do not tell me about important updates I think means "Just download them and install them but don't tell me."


Force feeding us updates is no good, I'd rather use the same version that works great, and wait until the new people try them out first.

And I grabbed the Beta jD 2 - No, no, no, no.... it doesn't work like the 'regular' jD...

the .9 version of jD is easy and intuitive I can 'rubber band' a group of files right click and merge them with whatever name I want.

I can click the 'Make Subdirectory' box and it will add it UNDER the /downloads folder, not just open it in the downloads folder.

The simple logical ways of .9 do NOT appear in jD beta 2.

If this is the shape of things to come for jD Please, PLEASE have the 'old' style available and upgraded.

Thanks! jD is the BEST. I tried SpeedDownloader, Toucan, Folx, Progressive, iGetter etc., et.al. and even with the crashes/freezes of the latest update, it's still better, I just CAN'T get my stuffs...

AND PLEASE give us the choice (Or tell me what switch to flip) so I *DON'T* have to update until *I'm* ready


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Old 20.10.2013, 12:41
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What?
I mean, make a Upgrade from JD 0.9 to JD2 beta.
Not a new Installation of JD2 Beta. Before you are doing a Upgrade, make a Backup from your curent Version of JD.
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Old 20.10.2013, 14:52
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well i have the same problem as others since the last update in Jdownloader well i guess you have to solve this problem as alot of users complain about it since the last update its not just one user who is facing it so please try to fix this issue i can't use the program at all since last update :(
please consider trying to fix this problem and don't ignore our request instead of doing nothing......
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Old 20.10.2013, 15:25
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Got the same freezes as everyone on OSX 10.8.5.
I downgraded JD through Timemachine to a version from 10.17.13.
Even with the latest Javaupdate through the MAS it runs fine as its used to be, so the problem definitely came with one of JDs updates and not the java version as suggested...

To get the older version to NOT update you must check "dont inform me about important updates" and uncheck "webupdate: start automatically". Working fine for me so far.

I hope this gets fixed quick never had problems with JD, until this problem i thought it was the best java software i've known.

Best Regards

EDIT: For the first start to edit the settings you must disable your internet connection.

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Old 20.10.2013, 15:27
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Hi Pulsar,
Java 7 is for Lion/Mountain Lion and not for Snowleopard, therefore not possible to install at least for me.
I know but for those, like me, that are under 10.8.5 the Java update solved my issues with JD.
Sorry but I can't help you about Snow Leopard.
Hoping for a fix.
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Old 20.10.2013, 15:55
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I know but for those, like me, that are under 10.8.5 the Java update solved my issues with JD.
Sorry but I can't help you about Snow Leopard.
Hoping for a fix.
The newest Java 1.7 update may fix the problem for some, but it ultimately came from JDs updates, because the older JD version is working with latest Java 1.6 update from Apple...

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Old 20.10.2013, 16:03
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The newest Java 1.7 update may fix the problem for some, but it ultimately came from JDs updates, because the older JD version is working with latest Java 1.6 update from Apple...

Best Regards
Of course, I also think that there's something wrong with the latest JD's updates...
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Old 20.10.2013, 16:08
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Of course, I also think that there's something wrong with the latest JD updates...
I'm guessing the latest Java 1.7 update has some form of error correction or catching that the latest 1.6 hasnt, so it prevents the error to happen.

But i dont want to give up the automatic java update through MAS, and replacing it by one of oracles auto updating mechanisms, i'm quite sceptical against oracle if you know what i mean
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Old 20.10.2013, 16:23
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I'm guessing the latest Java 1.7 update has some form of error correction or catching that the latest 1.6 hasnt, so it prevents the error to happen.

But i dont want to give up the automatic java update through MAS, and replacing it by one of oracles auto updating mechanisms, i'm quite sceptical against oracle if you know what i mean :biggrin:
I know exactly what you mean and I totally agree with you
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Old 20.10.2013, 18:15
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I have the same problem with JD freezing after the last updates. I have an iMac late 2013 with MacOS X 10.8.5. Until then it worked without any problem even after the recent Java 1.6 update by Apple. So I think the problem is with JD, not Java.

I solved the issue by installing JD 2 beta. It works quite well on Java 1.7. I hope the final version of JD 2 will be released soon as it represents a huge improvement.
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Old 20.10.2013, 19:36
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I mean, make a Upgrade from JD 0.9 to JD2 beta.
Not a new Installation of JD2 Beta. Before you are doing a Upgrade, make a Backup from your curent Version of JD.
OK, how do you upgrade from JD 0.9 to JD2?

And what are the system requirements for JD2? If it needs Java 1.7 then many of us won't be able to do that.

I'm currently running a version of JD from before 30 August, although I would rather run the latest version before 18 October when it broke.

From what I can tell, no one on OS X running 10.5, 10.6, or 10.7 can run the latest version.

So the developers need to do two things:

1. Put up the last version of JD before it broke. Which should be easy enough, and should have been done already.

2. Fix whatever they broke with the latest release.



In the meanwhile, this seems to work:

1. Install a version of JD released before 18 October 2013.
2. Turn off the internet. Go to Network in System Preferences, or unplug your modem and turn off WiFi.
3. Start JD.
4. Check "don't inform me about important updates" and uncheck "web update: start automatically".
5. Turn the internet back on.
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Old 20.10.2013, 21:42
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hi mark,
can you pls post a private msg where to get this version from august? right now now luck for me.
Sorry to bother you, but this bug really sucks
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Old 21.10.2013, 00:25
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hi mark,
can you pls post a private msg where to get this version from august? right now now luck for me.
Sorry to bother you, but this bug really sucks
No bother. I agree it sucks. Do you have a Time Machine or other back-up from before Friday?

I got it from my own back-up drive. While I back-up data more frequently, the last time I cloned the entire start-up drive was back in August.

According to the changelog it looks like we've been on version .9581 since at least 18 May 2012

It also looks like the log has some huge gaps and hasn't been updated since July of last year

I've been looking for the official repository, but I can't seem to find it. Does anyone know?

I found this site, jdownloader (dot) en (dot) uptodown (dot) com/old which seems to have a version from August but I haven't tried it.

This whole situation just seems very odd, especially that none of the developers have said anything

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Old 21.10.2013, 01:11
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JD 0.9581 is from 2012 or even 2011, since then the basic things havent changed, they only updated the plugins.
Maybe they want to focus more on the JD2 beta.

For me personally the old JD is far better, the new JD2 is dumbed down to a point were it misses important features or they need far more scrolling/clicking work to get things done.
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Old 21.10.2013, 01:12
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In the meanwhile, this seems to work:

1. Install a version of JD released before 18 October 2013.
2. Turn off the internet. Go to Network in System Preferences, or unplug your modem and turn off WiFi.
3. Start JD.
4. Check "don't inform me about important updates" and uncheck "web update: start automatically".
5. Turn the internet back on.
I tried this, but updates occured anyway :-@

So I prevented JD to phone home with Little Snitch and it seems to work now : no more freezes at the moment.

=> I run JD 0.9.581 but without any updates...
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Old 21.10.2013, 01:17
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I tried this, but updates occured anyway :-@

So I prevented JD to phone home with Little Snitch and it seems to work now : no more freezes at the moment.

=> I run JD 0.9.581 but without any updates...
You may need to restart JD every time you change important settings.
I restarted it when internet was disabled, changed the two settings, quit, enabled internet, started JD.
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Old 21.10.2013, 01:58
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You may need to restart JD every time you change important settings.
I restarted it when internet was disabled, changed the two settings, quit, enabled internet, started JD.
This method seems to work too...

Anyway JD now seems to work with 1229 pending updates.

Now the question is : how does it works without these updates ? (at least) one of them is certainly crippling, but the others are useful
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Old 21.10.2013, 05:51
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This whole situation just seems very odd, especially that none of the developers have said anything
I also prefer communication from developers on things like this but it's not unusual. There is currently an bug in the latest version of Android that makes it so a lot of people can no longer use their Bluetooth keyboards and Google has not responded to a large thread about it on their site for weeks. If a huge well-financed company like Google can't respond in a timely manner to something like that, my expectations of JDownloader's developer talking to us immediately about what's going on are a little more relaxed, as frustrating as this problem is.
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Old 21.10.2013, 10:53
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I also prefer communication from developers on things like this but it's not unusual. There is currently an bug in the latest version of Android that makes it so a lot of people can no longer use their Bluetooth keyboards and Google has not responded to a large thread about it on their site for weeks. If a huge well-financed company like Google can't respond in a timely manner to something like that, my expectations of JDownloader's developer talking to us immediately about what's going on are a little more relaxed, as frustrating as this problem is.
Kinda bad example, 1 feature not working that very few are using against a critical bug that kills the whole program in seconds...
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Old 21.10.2013, 12:22
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please close any jdownloader processes still running (java|javaw)

and start jdupdate.jar from the installation directory.
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Old 21.10.2013, 15:50
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I found this site, jdownloader (dot) en (dot) uptodown (dot) com/old which seems to have a version from August but I haven't tried it.
That site only showed Windows versions unless I am missing something.
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