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Old 27.05.2009, 05:16
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Man you had a nice, stable, usable soft. Lots of people who used it, most of them happy. After months of hard work you come up with a strange new version which is buggy, unstable, unfriendly, confusing and generally extremely hard to use. I've got a question for you: how do you manage to like this up so bad ? Was it not enough that you had a good, reputed soft that only needed small improvements ? Was it necessary to go ahead, show everyone how good you really are and screw the whole thing up to the point I'm looking for a new downloader without any second thoughts ?

Anyway, what you could do now is post the last stable and fully compatible version of 4.xxx for download, so that people who don't want to go through all that BS "upgrade" and end up nowhere still have a decent downloader to use.
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Old 27.05.2009, 05:21
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new version is stable, no big bugs and .....
its easier to use if you are getting used to it, also it provides a better interface and more usefull features

the new jd needs less cpu, less ram and .....

and no, there wont be 2 gui versions of it
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Old 27.05.2009, 05:32
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if the bugs are cleared out, everyone will be happy with it like in the versions before..:thumbup:
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Old 27.05.2009, 06:31
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new version is stable, no big bugs and .....
its easier to use if you are getting used to it, also it provides a better interface and more usefull features

the new jd needs less cpu, less ram and .....

and no, there wont be 2 gui versions of it
You really need a reallity check. The thing you put up for DL has more bugs than features. Upgrading crashes the whole application no mather how it is initiated.
Edit by Jiaz: because of the high serverload, just let it update and try again, and try again...you are not the only jd user on world and we can only afford 3 strong updateservers! remembr you dont pay anything for jd, because its FREE! The whole thing does not start every time it is launched; that also goes for the installer. Links added will not download, not even check. But they do freeze the application, occasionally.
Edit by jiaz: same reaseon as above, because plugins are loaded on the fly and due to high serverload, this may fail often at the moment! just update and try again, took me nearly 1 hour to update my live version correctly! I don't care if it works on your test system. It is this app which is supposed to be compatible with most systems reasonably updated, not the other way arround.
Edit by Jiaz: it works fine on mac, windows and linux, all issues come from the high serverload!

The configuration options are hard to navigate and poorly assembled. Various settings are located under improper sections. The addons (formally) cannot be turned off. The course of action from link adding to downloading is confusing and not fully controlable (or working). This is all one big mess. Being optimistic will not help, although it is funny.
Edit by Jiaz: it works fine on mac, windows and linux, all issues come from the high serverload!

You might take my advice and post an older version, one which is stable, usable and fully compatible (with all hosts) online for people to download while you work on this version, so they do not forget about it in the meantime. I am already using such a version, which will work... if I completely disable all upgrading

Edit by Jiaz: well, seems you did not read my messages or read the warning on changelog page:
1.) yes the addon section has a bug (it will show all enabled indepentand if they are installed or not)
2.) reconnect is buggy
3.) as written on our changelog page, the 3 updateservers are sreaming out loud and therefore you may have update problems (startup hang, update fails messages and such things) but when update is complete finished jd works fine

Last edited by Jiaz; 27.05.2009 at 13:13.
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Old 27.05.2009, 06:55
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How about you...

1. Learn to respect jdownloader programmers. Treat them like human beings. They are making this program without gaining any form financial gain or aren't being compensated. They are making this out of their own free time...Learn to treat them like how you would like to be treated.
2. Have a little bit of patience jeeeze! Use your head! Try out the beta if the stable version doesn't work. I got it to work while updating from the beta.

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Old 27.05.2009, 07:41
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How about you...
- think before you post (really hard)
- thus learn that one must first respect himself, before respecting others
- and not all people are the same. That is, even if you do not respect yourself, that might not be true for me

By placing this version online and not providing any different, older, tried and tested option (not some equally unfinished beta) they are forcing people to use this and face all those problems. Which means they don't respect us, for not giving us at least that choice (if not a better program). If you like that, it's fine. Not all people are gluttons for punishment.
Edit by Jiaz: the new version is well tested and only 2 major problems are there (addons and reconnect), but we cannot do anything against high serverload, if you wanna donate 2-3 more servers, here you go...but stop complaining about this issue, because all problems come only from high serverload

And this is not new, the board is full of complaints about major bugs for weeks. Yet there is no alternative, although the older versions generally worked well. I am right now using an older version, but I had to go to third party sites to get it.

Edit by jiaz: old version was very buggy, many hosters did not work, many decrypters did not work, all this is fixed and we fixed nearly every report for the beta and release candidate!
I need give no respect to someone who shows me complete lack of it. However, what I have expressed here is only my contempt for their feats, not their persons (this distinction requires more of that step 1).

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Old 27.05.2009, 07:51
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Hey ..

Well .. the new design looks quite cool. But acutally there're really some bugs. At first I made the update and after that nothing happened anymore. The logo came up but nothing happened.
Edit by Jiaz: becuase of high serverload, it updates the addons on startup and because this takes more than usuall you think it froze, but its working
So I removed the whole program and downloaded it again from the homepage.
Now .. everything looks fine but if I want to start a download, the program gives me that:
S S L Handshake: Remote host closed connection during handshake
Edit by Jiaz: reintall all java and be sure you added java.exe and javaw.exe to the firewalls exclude list, after an update and when you did not setup firewall correctly this is what might happen
I'm not a pro at stuff like that so it would be cool if someone's able to help me.

Thanks

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Old 27.05.2009, 09:40
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you can really tell they worked hard on this. but i just cant get use to this change either. im not a huge fan of cryptload usdownloader or others. they have have pluses and minuses as well does jdownloader. you just cant beat the management it has with the hosts. the constant updates it gives you and such.they went all out to keep u happy. the new version has everything you could want. just a bit of a learning curve.:outch:
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Old 27.05.2009, 09:51
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MxM,
This version is just great.
Nobody aims a gun to your head, just don't use JD.
Problem is that you are just one selfish thug who thinks he owns the world.
Instead of thanking the devs, you are spamming this forum with foul language and bad attitude.
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Old 27.05.2009, 09:57
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I'm really not satisfied with this version either, it's too damn buggy already.
Edit by Jiaz: its working fine, just update complete (which may take some hours) or install fresh as adviced in updatemessage! im sorry but we did underestimate the high usercount

Last edited by Jiaz; 27.05.2009 at 13:20.
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Old 27.05.2009, 10:00
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..... and lots of work for hundreds and hundreds of other jdownloader users out there. Damm:blink:
Edit by Jiaz: and these users are killing our bandwith and thats causing all the problems

-------- By placing this version online and not providing any different, older, tried and tested option (not some equally unfinished beta) they are forcing people to use this and face all those problems. Which means they don't respect us, for not giving us at least that choice (if not a better program). If you like that, it's fine. Not all people are gluttons for punishment. --------

...... yes, forcing is the correct word, did I have any choice
Edit by Jiaz: yes you had, enable updates only by manual request and jd will update itself to a complete installation which is not needed to update,only if you want to update
------ And this is not new, the board is full of complaints about major bugs for weeks. Yet there is no alternative, although the older versions generally worked well. I am right now using an older version, but I had to go to third party sites to get it. -----

..... where did you get the older verson???? please leave a link

..... now I have to find out how to uninstall it, I do not know how, and I am not a dataexpert, rather a datanovise
Edit by jiaz: delete jd folder

rrrrr

Last edited by Jiaz; 27.05.2009 at 13:23.
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Old 27.05.2009, 10:21
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Can't believe we have to use this version strictly, I can't download shit without it disconnecting on me constantly.
Edit by Jiaz: setup firewall correct and it will work fine

Last edited by Jiaz; 27.05.2009 at 13:24.
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Old 27.05.2009, 11:58
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For another one that didn't get it
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MxM,
This version is just great.
Nobody aims a gun to your head, just don't use JD.
Problem is that you are just one selfish thug who thinks he owns the world.
Instead of thanking the devs, you are spamming this forum with foul language and bad attitude.
Unlike you, who cannot use JD anymore because it's buggy as hell and you're are too coward (or plain dumb) to say anything about it, I have already found a version that works Where did I ever say I had to use this ? What I said is this is rubbish and if they want the respect of the community, they better come up with a good product, or at least give us the option of using the already developed old one, which worked (relatively) fine. Had I been selfish, I would have went ahead and used the previous version and not cared about what they do on this site. Instead of kissing a** like you, I am actually pointing out problems and pushing things in the right direction. Well true, owning some lemmings in the process


About the other version: what I did is I searched for the latest version (0.4.936) in the latest build that I could find (at least as recent as Jan 2009). I don't remember the site I found it on, it could have been Softpedia or another one like it. But it works at the level of that period, with limitations regarding certain hosts (you have to enter code on MU etc.) or freezing on adding new links in the same session. Another thing is you have to block its access to the update site on startup (easiest by firewall), or it might freeze and even become unstable and you'll have to reinstall.

Edit by Jiaz: if you block with firewall, dont wonder when jd does not work correct or you cannot open container files anymore

It is possible the "devs" manage to get this version to a decent state some day, but until then it's plain rude of them to leave this kind of builds on the site and take offline the older version(s) that worked.
Edit by Jiaz: its working fine, read my other comments

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Edit by Jiaz: if you block with firewall, dont wonder when jd does not work correct or you cannot open container files anymore
What I (clearly) said is I block it's connection to this site, so it doesn't get to start any update procedures. That is the only way it works, how else do you think I DLd over 30 files today ?

Edit by Jiaz: this way you may loose the ability to open containers, and you can easily do this whtout blocking the side, just enable *update only on manual request*

Last edited by Jiaz; 28.05.2009 at 03:47.
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Old 27.05.2009, 12:25
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my main gripe in this version is the links sort function.It can't sort descending as previous version.Even if I presorted the links(in Excel),it still does the ascending autosort upon grabing links:confused:

I need the link sort function is because i usually downloading on 2 pc's,which one of them will download from accending links and the other one from descending links.With this,the download would finish faster.

Edit by Jiaz: leftclick on columnname or rightlick on package and you can sort according the current column

Thanks Jiaz for commenting on this matter.It still doesn't work as intended actually.Left clicking the package column header will only sort the packages and not the links in the packages.Right clicking on the package names and choose sort will only sort the links in ascending manner only.In the old version,when I choose sort it will sort the links ascending and descending accordingly(press sort first time it will be ascending,press sort again it will be descending).Of course I could move the links up and down in the package but it's to much work rather than just using the sort function.Thank you

The sort function is working again in new updates!thank you very much JD team!I'm happy now:angel:

I appreciate the developer's hard work,it's just that it's missing something here and there.Either than that,it's and excellent software at least for me.

Last edited by jinsatoemo; 01.06.2009 at 04:08.
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Old 27.05.2009, 13:03
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Guys, you had much time to test and report new GUI bugs. We released 2 public betas, and 2 Release Candidates. We collected buginfo during BETA was available online, so why do you tell us now that you see "SOME" really big bugs?

Yes, we preciate criticism, but let it be constructive:
1) What bugs and where?
2) When they appear?
3) Any information about system, maybe logfile, screenshot or something else?

Believe us, we can't have each computer configuration with each platform and so. We really try to solve all problems, but need your support here.

And here I want to thank all people who helped with developing - they weren't Java programmers, just JD users who wanted to help making this program a better and more useful software and tried to help.

Also, as you probably have seen on our website news section - we're looking for new team members; we need more hand-power. Lots of work, less hands to do it.
If you can help and want to help - you're welcomed!

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Old 27.05.2009, 13:25
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MxM, I just totally agree with you.
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Old 27.05.2009, 15:46
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I just signed to say that the new version has succeeded in making me hate Jdownloader , I don't want to , honestly . But the new version is just too cumbersome . Gone are the simple Jdownloader which I love most , replaced with an abomination , sorry for being offensive but it just is .

I see that we could refuse the new Jdownloader , but not that I want to refuse updates . I frequently updates the programme hoping it will *keep up with the times* but this new version is totally UNKNOWN to me . Had I known the whole interface will changed , I would just refuse the update by choosing cancel yet all it shown is XXX updates available .
Edit by Jiaz: whats so bad about the new gui? its has an improved downloadlist, improved and much better linkgrabber and improved accountmanager (for example the live accountstats)

Currently downloading 0.4.936 ...

Last edited by Jiaz; 27.05.2009 at 15:56.
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Old 27.05.2009, 16:22
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Umm i dont understand why you dont put old version online damn, when you make new version obviously people are gonna have problem with major update, people like me, this is like. I cannot use this due to problem i mentioned in my thread and can't use old cause i'm guessing its offline? Guess i need to go use another download manager till this shit gets solved.
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Old 27.05.2009, 16:33
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So what's the problem reporting a bug and wait a little for it to be fixed?
I was working with the betas and RCs and sure there are bugs, but this version is not such catastrophic as you describe it.
And why whining and complaining in such nonconstructive manner?
Stop crying and start contributing to this software by reporting a bugs and useful information.
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Old 27.05.2009, 16:49
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Here's the one suggested by topic maker .

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IMO , the new version works fine . It's the whole interface . Choosing between 0.5 and 0.4 is like choosing between a gunshot in your head or a pat in the back .
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