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As Alooka's message is older has becomed the first message of the thread. But well, the moderator who did that should have quoted your post to clarify he was merging them because now it seems you are lying when you say that thread had not a reply, when you were just saying the truth. Last edited by soisbasura; 02.01.2013 at 13:06. |
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They'll fix the issue but the real problem is if you don't use a startup monitor app you'd always face such issues. I recommend AnVir Task Manager Free, it shows warning for driver, toolbar, service, context menu items etc. and you can delete or disable installation of them forever.
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We don't censor here, just to clarify this.
Everyone in the world can read this thread. GreeZ pspzockerscene
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First try to introduce confusion is not fair-play and it proves only that someone does not feel very comfortable in his sneakers. And sorry to contradict you but changing the title of the thread "Jdownloader installer contains Malware" to "Jdownloader installer contains Adware" what is it?
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I didn't change the title but i think Adware is the correct title as that's what many free programms include.
Malware is a step further. Now tell me, what can I do to change the thread so it's less "irretating"? I'll do it, I promise! GreeZ pspzockerscene
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Another useful clarification for those who have not still understood or for those who do not want to understand, the real signification of:
An Adware: a program with a clear installer who respect at the install the choice of users, a program we can remove easily. A Malware: a program installed with a f....g installer in the background, who tracks users ips and further personal informations to make cash, a program we can't desinstall properly which leaves spies in the bdr! Personally you are not responsible to this situation i'm sure, so i think you can't help except to give your opinion. When trust is lost it's difficult to make anything anyway. |
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adware
Read it! What do you want by the way? Make people stop using JD? They won't, I'm sure and I won't stop supporting it as my hobby... GreeZ pspzockerscene
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malware
Read it! "What do you want by the way?" ??? strange question First the truth about "the bug", i'm sure its a lie. Second the same thing as you, that responsibles stop dishonesty with their installer and give people the complete procedures to uninstall their crap instead of laughing. |
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1.Let's leave it this way: We cannot say if it's Adware or Malware, it's something between that!
2.*removed by Think3r* I'm always serious and this time I can only say: I don't know it because this stuff is all handled by the Appwork guys. Sure I'am in contact with them but i haven't really talked with them about that. Last time we talked it was about removing the Facemoods stuff but that doesn't matter because I'm pretty sure it'll be replaced by somethng similar. 3.I know I'll talk against a wall but: Many of those Adware things can't be fully removed by uninstalling them. Most times you have to do stuff manually and Google to find out how to remove it. If the tool I've mentioned above, this "AdwCleaner", removes that stuff, I'll make a sticky or add it to a FAQ or even make a forum accouncement so people can find it. EDIT I think I'll check that soon, maybe i can do it using Sandboxie but first I need to get all installer versions of JD (different country == different installed with different stuff included). But most of the people using JD won't find it because only some of those are here in the board so it won't change that much but that's the same for everything we're doing here (FAQs and stuff) so as long as we think it helps, we'll do it. GreeZ pspzockerscene
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1) "If someone wants fast cash it makes sense to force the installation of this software or to implement it as "a bug." So it makes sense its a big lie, no need to beat around the bush as coalado & raztoki, they are not more candids than the average nobody can trust sweetcraps.
2) A thread with clear explanations to help people the best possible about all, and to warn people a link to this thread on the download page to avoid what you say at the end, it would be better than nothing i agree totally. |
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I'm on it.
I'll collect all installer versions and we'll make a thread which contains information about every version and how to remove all that. A facemoods removal guide can already be found on our wiki: http://www.jdownloader.org/knowledge...move-facemoods (Yes i know, no one uses the Wiki anymore because it's old, outdated and awkward.) GreeZ pspzockerscene
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This is malware and I don't mind how much this is wanted to be considered adware when it is not. A program that steal personal data and sells it to third parties can't be considered adware at all. It is malware and it is breaking laws for almost all countries around the world. Of course anyone is free to support whatever he wants to support. Even one can be in favour of bank robberies. Anyone is free to have his own point of view. I will never support any piece of software spreading all those sorts of crap, being it virus, phishing, or any kind of malware. The installers recommending other piece of software is nothing new it has been done for years -not even something from this century-, don't know in which terms, collaboration between apps or contracts involving cash. But both the recommend software were legitimate software and your decision to install it or not was always respected. What have changed is that now the recommended software is malware and doesn't respect the decision of people that doesn't want to install it. If you bear with this unhonest installers, good for you. Go on. But of course people has to know what is happening and I hope as much as posible stop supporting any sotfware with this unhonest policy. In my case I do, I stop using it. This is not just the first free app that I stop using for that reason. |
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@soisbasura
I'm sorry but i never said that i support this kind of making money. As said, we'll at least make such an information thread. My opinion is also based on the fact that I'm no casual user. Whenever I install anything (also JD) I'm always watching out for adware crap and i always untick the installation (yes i know that this one JD installer installs it anyways). Also, I've never used the installer for JDownloader which is why I didn't have to deal with the adware stuff. We'll see what Appwork does this year and we'll see if they change the installer behaviour. I won't and can't make any promises other than, as long I'm a supporter in this forum, I will do my best to help those who mistakenly installer the crap. GreeZ pspzockerscene
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I have run the installer just to have a look again. And it seems it actually give the option to don't install the malware. The problem is that they designed the UI on purpose to cheat people on thinking they are disabling the app installation when they are not.
They have added two checkboxes that are only related to two features of the app (show disabling those checkboxes only disables those features), then at the bottom they added two buttons a decline in a dismiss look&feel where you will normally find a previous button at the left and an agree to the right where you expect to find a next button. Obviously almost 100% of people are going to click agree thinking they are chosing to continue with the jdownloader installation without installing the malware app. It is a conscious cheat (though I suppose someone is going to deny it is). Anyway I wanted to clarify it is not true when I say it doesn't give the option to chose not installing the app. Anyway recommending a malware is not honest nor the way in which the installer is designed to cheat users. Besides I want to add that at least in my case the uninstall (from windows control panel) of the 4 different apps that malware installs (emoticons for ym and msn, and add-ons for browsers), all of the 4 gave me errors and the uninstall of the add-ons installed active-x on internet explorer. So the malware is not easy to uninstall. Regards. Last edited by soisbasura; 02.01.2013 at 20:15. |
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If they have changed something on the installer as you have verify it proves that they are not all in holidays
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I see another dig at me! I was never beating around the bush. Everyone was throwing accusations or personal opinion into the ring, yet I was the only one here giving response during this period, so clearly I'm the bad guy. I was just assisting where possible, all voluntary by the way. Each one of my responses was clear and to the point, and I've done everything I said I would. I was never throwing accusations back at the people who chucked them. I understand some of you are are at least upset/angry, while others are just informing others. Try keeping a level head can assist your request, so much faster than throwing mud/names/accusations when you know little about the situation behind the scenes. In reference to Alooka post, it was just a statement, it was neither question or something that required a reply. Nor did the user ever come back to the forum in regards to his post (well not yet). Forum mods merge posts and or threads all the time, this thread has been merged numerous times already and most likely will be merged again. It's lovely to see more vivid imaginations in response prior to the merge and after. Quite sure this situation is another doomed if you do help doomed if you don't.
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Never said you are a bad guy, i just said you play the candid instead to tell what you really think, post 5 "must be some bug within the installer", "must be" is not clear at all, and you knew perfectly it was not a bug i'm wrong or not?
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It receive no attention because you are tired to play the candid that's all. And finally when you merge posts by respect make this correctly please, thanks. Edit: Last edited by rrogntudjû; 04.01.2013 at 19:02. Reason: responsabilities, where are you? |
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Which is why I called like. I installed JD without getting any Adware installed.
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The actual installer has a clear intention on spreading malware, it is handle by unhonest people that has an unhonest way of making money. And jDownloader is not the only free software that has made an agreement with those unhonest people in charge of the installer. like is denying that. As for now, jDownloader continues being a malware spreader and will continue being while using that shit installer that spread malware. The recommended sotware those unhonest people add to their installer change from time to time and sometimes the malware they spread is more dangerous sometimes less dangerous but be very careful. And as I said before and I repeat now, no matter even if the installer gives the option to not install the malware -hiding it as much as they can I suppose just to try to make parties on the agreement happy-, as soon as it is recommending malware it is malware itself. And by using the installer jDownloader becomes a collaborator, accomplice on spreading malware. Last edited by soisbasura; 03.01.2013 at 11:23. |
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Also its wise not to quote with post numbers, use url or the quote function as you have done in the past. Because when threads merge, post numbers change. It does not influence the post /showpost.php?p=id url or quote. That referenced post if it's still the correct number, is his opinion on the matter, and yours. I'm not touching rehashing what's been covered numerous times already.
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I have had the same computers for nearly 6-12 years. I tend to run JD out of an IDE (eclipse) 99.999% of the time as my every day downloader (near exclusively within debug mode). As a developer my needs are totally different to others. My older installs only kept to test errors, and rarely used. I have had a jd0.x for over three years, and nightly was obtained by copying existing install and using the ' 'java -jar jdupdater.jar -branch nightly' method. When I originally installed JD, adware wasn't present. Already explained why installers are present, this has been adequately covered
I wont be answering any more of your questions or quoted text with a rambling text implicating your opinions. It's wasting everyone's time and energy. If you want to bring something new to the table, fine do so.
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If you lose your energy its because day after day you have more threads talking about the same subject its not my fact. Your responses are always the same i agree, and they can't help. Things get worse and one day if they continue in this way i predict problems for JD sure, responsible are warned even if for the moment they don't care.
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@rrogntudjû
He loses his energy because discussing this makes no sense. Also, there are no new threads day after day (and as said, we do NOT censor). If this thread continues like now, I'll close it till Jiaz/Coalado respond so please, calm down. GreeZ pspzockerscene
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You can close this no sense if you want also http://board.jdownloader.org/showthread.php?t=43666 |
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Waiting for Jazz/Coalado reply is a waste of time. They totally bear with the installer cheat.
Just look at their reply in that other message. http://board.jdownloader.org/showpos...3&postcount=12 In the installer there is a cheat they are using which will trap almost 100% of people on installing the crap malware. There is a decline button on the left on dismiss look&feel to decline the malware installation that anyway people interprets as stopping the installation of jDownloder instead not decline just the crap malware and continue, and they click the right button after unchecking two checkboxes thinking it is the correct way to continue with install without installing the malware. Using that malware spreader makes jDownloader malware spreader. Being a malware spreader for a month is very very serious issue. And look at the last message there to stop calling that crap adaware please. Don't confuse people, even if it is not on purpose. |
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Trojan horse family
I can't resist to put this here to show how i was kind in comparison :D
http://board.jdownloader.org/showthr...567#post238567 From TechVTS: Quote: Adware.SweetIM comes from a notorious Trojan horse family which could infect any version of windows operating system including Windows XP, Vista, Windows NT, Windows Server 2003, Win-7 and 8 etc. This virus gets into a computer without letting user know because the download and installation of it is performed in background. Once adware.SweetIM has infected, it will download additional components and malwares. Usually, Adware.SweetIM will make your computer performance slow, overwrite remove important system files. It also keeps tracking user`s online activity. There are several hacked websites that distribute adware.sweetIM, it may even infect a PC through spam emails or corrupt freeware applications. SweeIM malware may also redirect you to sweetim.com website and set your browser hompage to **External links are only visible to Supporters**. Its recommended to uninstall Adware.SweetIM infection from a computer immediately. What are symptoms of Adware.SweetIM and how dangerous it is: Incredibly slowed down system performance speed. Annoying and unwanted advertisement pop-ups appearing on screen Disabled Task Manager and registry editing tools Hijacked Web browser; Web links and searches redirecting to wrong websites. Computer running like out of your control You may lose your money as it reveals your financial details to hackers It will set your hompage to **External links are only visible to Supporters** It will corrupt windows registry It will make important system files unsafe by injecting itself into them Quote:
Also, there are no new threads day after day on other places... Censor close or merge, make as you prefer but it can't change it. Last edited by rrogntudjû; 04.01.2013 at 16:38. Reason: I added the title ;) |
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If you feel angry, contact me via PM but don't open other threads to give me reasons to ban you! GreeZ pspzockerscene *closed*
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Regarding malware on the webinstaller
I have a problem I was downloading the lastest version of JDOWNLOADER on a new computer everything was ok until the next day
I was normally using firefox when I notice this "similarsites" thing installed without asking for my permission then I remember the only thing I have on this new computer is JDOWNLOADER and then I notice it was actually the web installer that gave this adware The moment JD installed on my computer it also installed this "package manager" along with the toolbar and and the addon from "similarsites.com" (some sort of searcher with more ads than xboxlive I dont recommend to open it without adblock/noscript) So naturally I had to uninstall JD and firefox to get rid of but the "package manager" is still there and ccleaner can't uninstall it halp Anyone knows how to uninstall this JDOWNLOADER PACKAGES? its also not on the jdownloader folder file anyone know where it is? thx 4 u attn (also cant believe the devs included this similarsites thing shame on you) |
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Regan was a loveable girl
She deserved all the love from the people that loved her. But... she turned into and that wasn't Regan anymore. It didn't deserve any love. The only thing that it deserved was an exorcism. Two months or more and jDownloader continues spreading malware !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Now it's clear, while thousands of people are infected still no response, JDownloader is definitely passed to the dark side of the force.
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Closed, your guys keep going, especially you, rrogntudjû...
As said, wait for a response of the official developers!! GreeZ psp *closed*
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Things will change very soon!
However some information about the bundle issues: Our Installers are made by a company called InstallCore. They care about the bundles. This makes things a bit complicated and sometimes slow. We did not manage to offer SweetIm completely optional. If the user unchecked the toolbar, a software called sweetpack got installed anyway - BAD. We fully understand that you are angry because of this. We tried to talk to Installcore and to SweetIM to fix this - without success. Thus we removed SweetIm from the installer about 2 weeks ago. There should not be ANY unwanted bundle installations at all since that step. If there are, please write directly to e-mail@appwork.org.
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Things will change very soon!
However some information about the bundle issues: Our Installers are made by a company called InstallCore. They care about the bundles. This makes things a bit complicated and sometimes slow. We did not manage to offer SweetIm completely optional. If the user unchecked the toolbar, a software called sweetpack got installed anyway - BAD. We fully understand that you are angry because of this. We tried to talk to Installcore and to SweetIM to fix this - without success. Thus we removed SweetIm from the installer about 2 weeks ago. There should not be ANY unwanted bundle installations at all since that step. If there are, please write directly to e-mail@appwork.org.
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The response of the software owners or sites owners that spread this shit is always the same. "These toolbars are not malwares and they have no bugs in their installation we have verified". After... "you have the choice to install them or not... if you click only you are responsibles that you do"! and after... "SweetPacks, SweetIM, Conduit etc etc... are certified by VeryTrust, they do not contain malwares or viruses, most of free software have these toolbars in their installers." And after "it's really easy to remove them just go to the config panel..." and "we are not alone to make cash like this, since a long time all our concurents or many free sofwares use the same toolbars... if you're angry you're going to make war against the whole software industry" etc... why the response would be different here. I just think responsibles should be never forget that JD is made from Java which makes the software quite different... if people think that JD can use Java for the same kind of things probably you can imagine the consequences.
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Without knowing in what sense and how soon (soon is totally undertermined time) this can't be considered good news. Not bad either but not good news.
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rrogntudj...
Let's talk about possible solutions. Would you prefer paying for JD instead of getting a bundle offer?
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lollipop - does the lollipop offer install if the users declined it?
What do you think: Who of you would prefer to pay for a ad and bundle free version of jdownloader (and it's installers of course)?
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Thanks for your interest in problem but i can't answer to this question cause I have absolutly no idea to the price of betrayal.
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