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Old 08.06.2010, 03:50
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Cool Ignore certain file types

I would like an option to uncheck or ignore certain file types like youtube, mp4 etc clips.

The clipboard keeps capturing those links and prompting me to download.

Like say a settings section where

you can check/uncheck
-videos
-music
-Docs - html, etc..
-pictures

etc..

Since the main function of this app is to get rars files etc..from rapidshare etc..

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Old 08.06.2010, 08:09
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Do you know that there is a link filter in the Settings - User Interface - LinkGrabber?
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Old 08.06.2010, 08:23
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yeah i just found, but it is better if they made a checkbox, more easier and intuitive for alot of people.

I only just found it existed just now.

If you make as a checkbox section like the hosting section, it would be better.

Plus it is easier to check off stuff, than to type every single file.
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Old 08.06.2010, 15:20
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You can simple deactivate the YouTube plugin in the host-settings?
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Old 09.06.2010, 04:17
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yes, but it is picking up .mp4, html, jpgs etc from a lot of other host and sites when i am browsing... also i don't think there is a youtube host plugin.

It picks it up if you click copy link etc..

Then for something flv it will prompt for a filetype to save as or something like.

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plus the ignore links part where u need to write every single file is not easy to find and not very intuitive for a lot of people.

I didn't even see that till now.

Make a ignore file type tab etc is more intuitive and would make the program more easier for a lot of people
vs the current version where we need to type in some stuff to ignore it.

Checkbox off filetypes you don't want downloaded I think is a good idea and more user friendly.
And by default you should make it ignore the filetypes I mentioned below, since most are just downloading rar files who are using this program.

Or make it default ignore mp4, html, youtube, jpg etcs.
if we wanted to catch mp4, html, youtube, there is already our own download managers and firefox addons which does it.

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Old 11.06.2010, 15:34
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There's a jD Youtube decrypter, not a jD host plug-in.

Making programs more easy to use is an art and not a science. However, there are rules and conventions about usability that should be followed. Drbits wrote some posts about the subject, but I'm not sure these will be implemented soon.

Let's first implement the standards and then see whether your requirements have been met.
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Old 13.06.2010, 04:06
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There's a jD Youtube decrypter, not a jD host plug-in.

Making programs more easy to use is an art and not a science. However, there are rules and conventions about usability that should be followed. Drbits wrote some posts about the subject, but I'm not sure these will be implemented soon.

Let's first implement the standards and then see whether your requirements have been met.
In terms of ease of use, the current system for excluding filetypes is not very user friendly. It isn't even easy to find or standout. It isn't easy to exclude files as well.

Whether u implement a checkbox feature to exclude filetypes will depend on your priority. It will definitely make it more user friendly.

If you can't do this, then you should stop catch links with mp4, jpgs, html, .exe, youtube flv etc.. We mainly use jdownloader to download rar files in a package from sharing sites.

Most people already got download managers to catch other file types, and even firefox has the downthemall and flashgot plugins, and video downloader if we want to catch those other filetypes mention.

Jdownloader should stick to what it's main purpose is, which is to download files of sharing sites which mainly consist of RAR files, and rar multiple files, and maybe zip files.

If jdownloader wants to also be a download manager and not just a sharing host download manager, then u should allow people to choose what files they want catching.

It should not catch video files and ask you what format you want to download it as (biggest annoyance), and also not catch jpgs, html, .exe etc (second annoyance - need to delete those files from link list afterwards).. or give ppl the option to easily disable those files.

Btw I think you guys are doing good job with this app, and for the most part it does what it was meant to, but i think it should stick to it's main purpose as a sharing host download manager (since this is what ppl mainly use it for) and not as a general download manager or give ppl the option to disable this, if they already got a general download manager.

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Old 13.06.2010, 04:41
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and also not catch jpgs, html, .exe etc (second annoyance - need to delete those files from link list afterwards).. or give ppl the option to easily disable those files.
Deactivate the http-links plugin

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Old 13.06.2010, 13:55
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Deactivate the http-links plugin

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I don't think it would work great if i did that..

cos don't u need to copy http links from websites which contain the rar files?

Aren't they in

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Old 13.06.2010, 13:59
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Deactivate the http-links plugin

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How?

Also don't

websites that list links

url: http//www.megaup***.com/??[/url]

don't they need http?

Also why make it more difficult for most users.

It should by default not catch video, html, jpg etcs..

We copy those links to put into the browser to load a new tab or so it will go to the general download manager, not meant for jdownloader.
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Old 13.06.2010, 14:17
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Some people only use one download manager and it's nice that jD can download http links as well.

The http links can be disabled in Settings -> Plugins & Addons -> Host.

HTTP and FTP are the protocols supported by jD.

The name "http links" is indeed confusing, but what do you suggest?

I believe most downloads are video or audio. Why shouldn't jD download these?

Can you please explain or rephrase your last sentence, because I don't understand it?
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Old 13.06.2010, 15:16
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MAN why don't you just TRY it.
I'm a supporter so i know what i am talking about.
The http-links plugin is for links that are NOT handled by the hoster plugins so disabling it will solve your problem.

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Old 14.06.2010, 05:59
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MAN why don't you just TRY it.
I'm a supporter so i know what i am talking about.
The http-links plugin is for links that are NOT handled by the hoster plugins so disabling it will solve your problem.

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Well i was making a suggestion to make the program more user friendly.

If they want to implement it or not is up them.
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Old 14.06.2010, 06:07
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Some people only use one download manager and it's nice that jD can download http links as well.

The http links can be disabled in Settings -> Plugins & Addons -> Host.

HTTP and FTP are the protocols supported by jD.

The name "http links" is indeed confusing, but what do you suggest?

I believe most downloads are video or audio. Why shouldn't jD download these?

Can you please explain or rephrase your last sentence, because I don't understand it?
This jdownloader primary mission/purpose.

JDownloader is open source, platform independent and written completely in Java. It simplifies downloading files from One-Click-Hosters like Rapidshare.com or Megaupload.com - not only for users with a premium account but also for users who don't pay. It offers downloading in multiple paralell streams, captcha recognition, automatical file extraction and much more. Of course, JDownloader is absolutely free of charge. Additionally, many "link encryption" sites are supported - so you just paste the "encrypted" links and JD does the rest. JDownloader can import CCF, RSDF and the new DLC files.

Most people who use this are using it for that purpose. ie sharing host download manager not as an all purpose download manager.

We can get other download managers that are free if we wanted to download those other files.

Also they work more better than jdownloader.

E.g. Youtube movies would get downloaded immediately as flv instead of getting a prompt for what filetype it should save as...

Also most ppl got a large list of packages of files (rar, zip) etc of files we want, we don't want jpg, html, videos files added to the long list.

I am just making a suggestion to improve the program, no need to get defensive.
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Old 14.06.2010, 13:39
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Thanks for your explanation.

I'm using other download engines (Azureus, FDM, etc.) as well, because jD isn't perfect for all types of downloads and the functional needs that I have. Overall, jD is the best download tool I know.

Some people use their browser for all their downloads. They're happy with that.

It's true that jD is specialised in decrypting links and downloading from hosts like RS, MF, MU and HF.

Where I don't agree with you is that it should be limited to that (very important) niche. Many customers have asked more functionality. When I'm only running jD, I don't start FDM or my browser to download a simple http link. I could have another reason not to use my browser to download a simple http link or jpg image :- the download directory. In jD I can setup multiple download folders.

If you don't want to download simple http links, please disable that function in the Hosts settings page and your issue is solved.

The youtube format setting issue is known and will be changed as soon as there is a volunteer to implement it.
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Old 14.06.2010, 14:28
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Thanks for your explanation.

I'm using other download engines (Azureus, FDM, etc.) as well, because jD isn't perfect for all types of downloads and the functional needs that I have. Overall, jD is the best download tool I know.

Some people use their browser for all their downloads. They're happy with that.

It's true that jD is specialised in decrypting links and downloading from hosts like RS, MF, MU and HF.

Where I don't agree with you is that it should be limited to that (very important) niche. Many customers have asked more functionality. When I'm only running jD, I don't start FDM or my browser to download a simple http link. I could have another reason not to use my browser to download a simple http link or jpg image :- the download directory. In jD I can setup multiple download folders.

If you don't want to download simple http links, please disable that function in the Hosts settings page and your issue is solved.

The youtube format setting issue is known and will be changed as soon as there is a volunteer to implement it.
The way I have my system setup is i got my standard download manager which catches all filetypes in the browser.
It stores all the files I have ever downloaded. That general download manager stays in the tray permanently.

When I want to start downloading from hosting sites, I would start jdownloader usually at night for off peak hours.

Why do I do this?
1. It keeps the hosting packages nice and clean for that purpose and all the other download links in the general manager.

2. Jdownloader is a great memory hog. It uses alot of memory, the more packages you got setup to download. So I don't keep jdownload in the tray permanently.

3. I don't need to clear out my old history from the general manager. Cos those files are separate to my hosting packages. Also who wants to keep a large history of frivolous downloads in jdownloader which would clogg up the download packages links.

If you want to make it so jdownloader is also a general download manager as well (which strays from it's primary mission) then go ahead. But you should let us choose if we need it to be or not.

This constant catching off frivolous links is an annoyance and waste time both from the constant prompts of what video format to save as, as well as the need to remove the frivolous links.

Also it's is not easy to stop this, unless we made a thread and u told us to disable http links. Ie it is not clearly pointed out.

Also I think it still catches some links, though I haven't tested it fully yet.

My point/suggest is to make it more user friendly so we got a choice if we want to catch those type of links or not.

That's all I am suggesting to the developers.

BTW can u tell who are the actual devs here? Are u one or just someone that answers the forums?
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Old 14.06.2010, 14:37
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JD actually also got many decrypters and some of them decrypt http links (links that aren't handled by a host plugin).
The ability to use jd to download normal http links is a VERY nice feature and it is indeed used by many users
...and because you can turn it off it won't annoy you at any time

Bugtracker ticket for the youtube configuration!

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Old 14.06.2010, 14:51
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JD actually also got many decrypters and some of them decrypt http links (links that aren't handled by a host plugin).
The ability to use jd to download normal http links is a VERY nice feature and it is indeed used by many users
...and because you can turn it off it won't annoy you at any time

Bugtracker ticket for the youtube configuration!

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Well i will give the http suggestion a go and report back if it still catches any links. But I think this suggestion i made is a good idea for improvement to the program. Nobody knows turning off http links can disable the catching of unwanted links, until u make a thread here. It's not user friendly vs my suggestion of a checkbox to disable files types u don't want.

Well I made my suggestions and stated my reasons why I think it is good idea. Whether the devs consider it will be depend on their priority.

Btw can u tell me who are the actual devs here?
And also do u guys have any input on the features included?

Also I am making suggestions to improve the program, based on my experiences and what I see are it's flaws.

I don't understand why u guys are so opposed to it when it this feature would make it more user friendly?
Do u do the actual coding or something? It's understandable that more coding would be required and if u do coding then more work. So from that point, I can see why u would want to oppose this.

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I am just a little developer so ican't decline suggestions (only if they make no sense at all) but i can decide to put suggestions in the bugtracker or not to put em in there.

The actual developers are the members with the yellow and red names.

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I am just a little developer so ican't decline suggestions (only if they make no sense at all) but i can decide to put suggestions in the bugtracker or not to put em in there.

The actual developers are the members with the yellow and red names.

GreeZ pspzockerscene
So only u can decide which features gets put in the bugtracker?

Btw to not put a suggestion in the bugtracker is the same thing as declining a suggestion (which u say u can't do). So your statement is kind of like a paradox.
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