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Old 28.08.2012, 12:09
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And apparent you are removing points from honest accounts as well.

Either the system works or it doesn't. You should roll to a back up from before you started 'upgrading' thing.
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Old 29.08.2012, 20:04
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If you guys want to test the new- captcha-credit-saving uploaded.to limit handling, go to the plugin settings and activate the 2nd setting.

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Old 29.08.2012, 21:19
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I think the options from PSP for the uploaded.net-Plugin will avoid the waste of credits.

Nevertheless the CBH-System has a problem with captchas like this:

Code:
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:34 : console started... v1.1.7
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:34 : JD Process ID file deleted!
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:34 : checkRights finished!
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:34 : getConfig started!
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:34 : username is : XXX , password is : XXX 
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:34 : getConfig finished!
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:34 : starting createProviderList
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:34 : finished createProviderList
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:34 : waiting for input.jpg
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:34 : f1 hit...1
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:34 : connecting to server. 999
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:34 : api created
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:34 : captcha sent to server. Captcha code is kDXbv2tYnOT_2908201212
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:34 : f1 begins...
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:34 : f1 finished. 
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:34 : f2 begins...
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:35 : f2 finished...
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:35 : f3 begins...
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:35 : f3 finished... CC Empty
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:35 : Asking captcha result...
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:35 : asking result.
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:35 : result is : OK-on user-
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:35 : 1st phase passed, response is OK:on user-
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:35 : asking result.
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:35 : result is : OK-on user-
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:53 : asking result.
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:53 : result is : OK-on user-
I think a unsolved captcha, (--> a captcha-request with no answer) should not be credited.
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Old 30.08.2012, 02:57
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Hi all
i have noticed that when you fresh install a new JD2, you must change GraphicalUserInterfaceSettings.captchadialogtimeout setting in the Advanced Settings to 35 seconds.

By default, its 20 and that causes JD to not wait enough our plugin to finish his work.

So, please dont forget to modify that value after installing JD2.

@blacksun : please modify that value and that error should be fixed.
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Old 30.08.2012, 03:18
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you must change GraphicalUserInterfaceSettings.captchadialogtimeout setting in the Advanced Settings to 35 seconds.
So, please dont forget to modify that value after installing JD2.
Are you sure that this value also effect the waiting-time on a captcha-method?
When I think of the value-name I would think that this value is only for showing the captcha-dialog.

2.
When I get a reCaptcha-Image like this on in the solver:

what shall I enter for the second word?

Normally reCaptcha use 2 Words. But in the last time I get many captchas like this one. you can only read one word

3. api
Did you make any chances on the api for entering captchas?
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Old 30.08.2012, 04:50
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Hi! Why do the minimum credits to transfer was increased to 1000??

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Old 30.08.2012, 13:17
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Are you sure that this value also effect the waiting-time on a captcha-method?
When I think of the value-name I would think that this value is only for showing the captcha-dialog.

2.
When I get a reCaptcha-Image like this on in the solver:

what shall I enter for the second word?

Normally reCaptcha use 2 Words. But in the last time I get many captchas like this one. you can only read one word

3. api
Did you make any chances on the api for entering captchas?
Hi,
1. I believe that same setting is used for both interactive dialog and plugin methods. When it was 20, i got the same error you had, when i increased it to 35, it worked well. You can test it too.

2. Honestly, i don't know Always try your best, if nothing is readable, i think leaving it blank is the only way. I also don't suggest users to enter only one word when there are 2 readable words, google sometimes doesn't accept it. You can test some recaptchas at http://www.google.com/recaptcha/learnmore

3. I occasionally make some changes to the api.
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Old 30.08.2012, 13:41
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Hi,
1. I believe that same setting is used for both interactive dialog and plugin methods. When it was 20, i got the same error you had, when i increased it to 35, it worked well. You can test it too.
I set it to 50 and at the moment I got the captcha-dialog to enter it manually very often
When i look on the Captchas, i dont unterstand why cbh cant solve it because the captcha are good



Code:
3408 : 30.08.2012 12:14:10 : console started... v1.1.7
3408 : 30.08.2012 12:14:10 : JD Process ID file deleted!
3408 : 30.08.2012 12:14:10 : checkRights finished!
3408 : 30.08.2012 12:14:10 : getConfig started!
3408 : 30.08.2012 12:14:10 : username is : XXX , password is : XXX
3408 : 30.08.2012 12:14:10 : getConfig finished!
3408 : 30.08.2012 12:14:10 : starting createProviderList
3408 : 30.08.2012 12:14:10 : finished createProviderList
3408 : 30.08.2012 12:14:10 : waiting for input.jpg
3408 : 30.08.2012 12:14:10 : f1 hit...1
3408 : 30.08.2012 12:14:11 : connecting to server. 843
3408 : 30.08.2012 12:14:11 : api created
3408 : 30.08.2012 12:14:11 : captcha sent to server. Captcha code is FA6IwZPMS7O_3008201205
3408 : 30.08.2012 12:14:11 : f1 begins...
3408 : 30.08.2012 12:14:11 : f1 finished. 
3408 : 30.08.2012 12:14:11 : f2 begins...
3408 : 30.08.2012 12:14:11 : f2 finished...
3408 : 30.08.2012 12:14:11 : f3 begins...
3408 : 30.08.2012 12:14:12 : f3 finished... CC Not Empty
3408 : 30.08.2012 12:14:12 : Asking captcha result...
3408 : 30.08.2012 12:14:12 : asking result.
3408 : 30.08.2012 12:14:12 : result is : OK-new-
3468 : 30.08.2012 12:15:30 : -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3468 : 30.08.2012 12:15:30 : console started... v1.1.7
3468 : 30.08.2012 12:15:30 : JD Process ID file deleted!
3468 : 30.08.2012 12:15:30 : checkRights finished!
3468 : 30.08.2012 12:15:30 : getConfig started!
3468 : 30.08.2012 12:15:30 : username is : XXX , password is : XXX
3468 : 30.08.2012 12:15:30 : getConfig finished!
3468 : 30.08.2012 12:15:30 : starting createProviderList
3468 : 30.08.2012 12:15:30 : finished createProviderList
3468 : 30.08.2012 12:15:30 : waiting for input.jpg
3468 : 30.08.2012 12:15:31 : f1 hit...1
3468 : 30.08.2012 12:15:31 : connecting to server. 843
3468 : 30.08.2012 12:15:31 : api created
3468 : 30.08.2012 12:15:31 : captcha sent to server. Captcha code is B6X2VmnatN3_3008201205
3468 : 30.08.2012 12:15:31 : f1 begins...
3468 : 30.08.2012 12:15:31 : f1 finished. 
3468 : 30.08.2012 12:15:31 : f2 begins...
3468 : 30.08.2012 12:15:31 : f2 finished...
3468 : 30.08.2012 12:15:31 : f3 begins...
3468 : 30.08.2012 12:15:32 : f3 finished... CC Not Empty
3468 : 30.08.2012 12:15:32 : Asking captcha result...
3468 : 30.08.2012 12:15:32 : asking result.
3468 : 30.08.2012 12:15:32 : result is : OK-new-
5172 : 30.08.2012 12:20:13 : -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
5172 : 30.08.2012 12:20:13 : console started... v1.1.7
5172 : 30.08.2012 12:20:13 : JD Process ID file deleted!
5172 : 30.08.2012 12:20:13 : checkRights finished!
5172 : 30.08.2012 12:20:13 : getConfig started!
5172 : 30.08.2012 12:20:13 : username is : XXX , password is : XXX
5172 : 30.08.2012 12:20:13 : getConfig finished!
5172 : 30.08.2012 12:20:13 : starting createProviderList
5172 : 30.08.2012 12:20:13 : finished createProviderList
5172 : 30.08.2012 12:20:13 : waiting for input.jpg
5172 : 30.08.2012 12:20:14 : f1 hit...1
5172 : 30.08.2012 12:20:14 : connecting to server. 999
5172 : 30.08.2012 12:20:14 : api created
5172 : 30.08.2012 12:20:17 : captcha sent to server. Captcha code is YulVH8QnSTj_3008201205
5172 : 30.08.2012 12:20:17 : f1 begins...
5172 : 30.08.2012 12:20:17 : f1 finished. 
5172 : 30.08.2012 12:20:17 : f2 begins...
5172 : 30.08.2012 12:20:17 : f2 finished...
5172 : 30.08.2012 12:20:17 : f3 begins...
5172 : 30.08.2012 12:20:17 : f3 finished... CC Empty
5172 : 30.08.2012 12:20:17 : Asking captcha result...
5172 : 30.08.2012 12:20:17 : asking result.
5172 : 30.08.2012 12:20:30 : result is : OK-on user-
5172 : 30.08.2012 12:20:30 : 1st phase passed, response is OK:on user-
5172 : 30.08.2012 12:20:30 : asking result.
5172 : 30.08.2012 12:20:34 : result is : OK-on user-
5632 : 30.08.2012 12:21:17 : -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
5632 : 30.08.2012 12:21:17 : console started... v1.1.7
5632 : 30.08.2012 12:21:17 : JD Process ID file deleted!
5632 : 30.08.2012 12:21:17 : checkRights finished!
5632 : 30.08.2012 12:21:17 : getConfig started!
5632 : 30.08.2012 12:21:17 : username is : XXX , password is : XXX
5632 : 30.08.2012 12:21:19 : getConfig finished!
5632 : 30.08.2012 12:21:19 : starting createProviderList
5632 : 30.08.2012 12:21:19 : finished createProviderList
5632 : 30.08.2012 12:21:19 : waiting for input.jpg
5632 : 30.08.2012 12:21:19 : f1 hit...1
5632 : 30.08.2012 12:21:19 : connecting to server. 999
5632 : 30.08.2012 12:21:19 : api created
5632 : 30.08.2012 12:21:21 : captcha sent to server. Captcha code is 63LjoMiuFjD_3008201205
5632 : 30.08.2012 12:21:21 : f1 begins...
5632 : 30.08.2012 12:21:21 : f1 finished. 
5632 : 30.08.2012 12:21:21 : f2 begins...
5632 : 30.08.2012 12:21:21 : f2 finished...
5632 : 30.08.2012 12:21:21 : f3 begins...
5632 : 30.08.2012 12:21:27 : f3 finished... CC Not Empty
5632 : 30.08.2012 12:21:27 : Asking captcha result...
5632 : 30.08.2012 12:21:27 : asking result.
5632 : 30.08.2012 12:21:29 : result is : OK-new-
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Old 30.08.2012, 18:41
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I discovered another problem with captchas from turbobit like this one:



the CBH-Plugin cannot access the file:

Code:
2788 : 30.08.2012 17:08:27 : console started... v1.1.7
2788 : 30.08.2012 17:08:27 : JD Process ID file deleted!
2788 : 30.08.2012 17:08:27 : checkRights finished!
2788 : 30.08.2012 17:08:27 : getConfig started!
2788 : 30.08.2012 17:08:27 : username is : XXX , password is : XXX
2788 : 30.08.2012 17:08:28 : getConfig finished!
2788 : 30.08.2012 17:08:28 : starting createProviderList
2788 : 30.08.2012 17:08:28 : finished createProviderList
2788 : 30.08.2012 17:08:28 : waiting for input.jpg
2788 : 30.08.2012 17:08:28 : f1 couldn't
2788 : 30.08.2012 17:08:28 : connecting to server. -1
2788 : 30.08.2012 17:08:28 : api created
2788 : 30.08.2012 17:08:28 : Error sending captcha : Der Prozess kann nicht auf die Datei "C:\temp\JD2\jd\captcha\methods\captchaBrotherhood\input.jpg" zugreifen, da sie von einem anderen Prozess verwendet wird.
   bei System.IO.__Error.WinIOError(Int32 errorCode, String maybeFullPath)
   bei System.IO.FileStream.Init(String path, FileMode mode, FileAccess access, Int32 rights, Boolean useRights, FileShare share, Int32 bufferSize, FileOptions options, SECURITY_ATTRIBUTES secAttrs, String msgPath, Boolean bFromProxy)
   bei System.IO.FileStream..ctor(String path, FileMode mode, FileAccess access, FileShare share, Int32 bufferSize, FileOptions options, String msgPath, Boolean bFromProxy)
   bei System.IO.FileStream..ctor(String path, FileMode mode)
   bei captchaBrotherhoodNetApi.captchaBrotherhoodNetApi.sendNewCaptcha(String imgFile, String captchaSource, String captchaSite, Int32 timeout)
The Dev of JD says that this is not a problem of JD.
When I execute the cbhWinPlugin.exe I have the same problem.
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Old 31.08.2012, 00:27
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I discovered another problem with captchas from turbobit like this one:



the CBH-Plugin cannot access the file:

Code:
2788 : 30.08.2012 17:08:27 : console started... v1.1.7
2788 : 30.08.2012 17:08:27 : JD Process ID file deleted!
2788 : 30.08.2012 17:08:27 : checkRights finished!
2788 : 30.08.2012 17:08:27 : getConfig started!
2788 : 30.08.2012 17:08:27 : username is : XXX , password is : XXX
2788 : 30.08.2012 17:08:28 : getConfig finished!
2788 : 30.08.2012 17:08:28 : starting createProviderList
2788 : 30.08.2012 17:08:28 : finished createProviderList
2788 : 30.08.2012 17:08:28 : waiting for input.jpg
2788 : 30.08.2012 17:08:28 : f1 couldn't
2788 : 30.08.2012 17:08:28 : connecting to server. -1
2788 : 30.08.2012 17:08:28 : api created
2788 : 30.08.2012 17:08:28 : Error sending captcha : Der Prozess kann nicht auf die Datei "C:\temp\JD2\jd\captcha\methods\captchaBrotherhood\input.jpg" zugreifen, da sie von einem anderen Prozess verwendet wird.
   bei System.IO.__Error.WinIOError(Int32 errorCode, String maybeFullPath)
   bei System.IO.FileStream.Init(String path, FileMode mode, FileAccess access, Int32 rights, Boolean useRights, FileShare share, Int32 bufferSize, FileOptions options, SECURITY_ATTRIBUTES secAttrs, String msgPath, Boolean bFromProxy)
   bei System.IO.FileStream..ctor(String path, FileMode mode, FileAccess access, FileShare share, Int32 bufferSize, FileOptions options, String msgPath, Boolean bFromProxy)
   bei System.IO.FileStream..ctor(String path, FileMode mode)
   bei captchaBrotherhoodNetApi.captchaBrotherhoodNetApi.sendNewCaptcha(String imgFile, String captchaSource, String captchaSite, Int32 timeout)
The Dev of JD says that this is not a problem of JD.
When I execute the cbhWinPlugin.exe I have the same problem.
Hi,
i think it says file is used by another process. can you open task manager and check if another instance of CBH is hang on!? if so, kill it.

for timeout problem : in database, your captchas are answered correctly, however you plugin stops asking the result before 30 seconds. can you try to run plugin exe manually ( turning jd off ) and check task manager to see if it runs about 35 seconds before it stops.
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Old 31.08.2012, 06:43
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for timeout problem : in database, your captchas are answered correctly, however you plugin stops asking the result before 30 seconds. can you try to run plugin exe manually ( turning jd off ) and check task manager to see if it runs about 35 seconds before it stops.
to find the problem, please help me an the JD-Devs by answering the following questions:

- do I get get a answer on any Captcha-request?
- is there a timeout for getting a answer?
- if there is a timeout or the plugin get no answer, what does the plugin do (so that the Plugin-starter like JD can react on it)?
- has the plugin the opportunity to start a second try if there ist a problem/no anwser or does the execution-Tool (--> JD) need to start a second try by starting the plugin again?


In Log I can find the following:
Code:
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:34 : captcha sent to server. Captcha code is kDXbv2tYnOT_2908201212
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:34 : f1 begins...
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:34 : f1 finished. 
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:34 : f2 begins...
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:35 : f2 finished...
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:35 : f3 begins...
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:35 : f3 finished... CC Empty
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:35 : Asking captcha result...
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:35 : asking result.
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:35 : result is : OK-on user-
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:35 : 1st phase passed, response is OK:on user-
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:35 : asking result.
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:35 : result is : OK-on user-
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:53 : asking result.
3492 : 29.08.2012 19:32:53 : result is : OK-on user-
please describe exactly what happened here
- what means f1 ...f3?
- what means CC empty
- what means "OK-on user"


this Log looks different:

Code:
5632 : 30.08.2012 12:21:21 : captcha sent to server. Captcha code is 63LjoMiuFjD_3008201205
5632 : 30.08.2012 12:21:21 : f1 begins...
5632 : 30.08.2012 12:21:21 : f1 finished. 
5632 : 30.08.2012 12:21:21 : f2 begins...
5632 : 30.08.2012 12:21:21 : f2 finished...
5632 : 30.08.2012 12:21:21 : f3 begins...
5632 : 30.08.2012 12:21:27 : f3 finished... CC Not Empty
5632 : 30.08.2012 12:21:27 : Asking captcha result...
5632 : 30.08.2012 12:21:27 : asking result.
5632 : 30.08.2012 12:21:29 : result is : OK-new-
- what means "CC not Empty"?
- what means "OK-new"?
- is "OK-new" an abortion and if yes, caused by the plugin/CBH-System itself or caused by the plugin-starter (-->JD)?

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Second question (has nothing do to with my problem mentioned above):

At the moment JD starts a JAC-method like the CBH-plugin more than 1 time. For example I download 2 Files. 1 from ul.net and 1 from share-online.biz.
Both use reCaptcha. so JD starts the plugin 2 times.
I think the result is at the moment that the second start abort the first execution, right?
Can the plugin handle simultan executions?
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Old 31.08.2012, 10:27
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Last night my CBH-plugin used more that 2000 credits to download 8 files from share-online.biz!
After the 8 files the log shows only every minute:
Code:
... f4 finished... CC Empty
... asking result.
... result is : OK-on user-
No answer code, no download but thousand of credits!
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Old 31.08.2012, 12:49
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The Solver not work correctly at this time. I have answer 5 captcha an i stoped and restartet the Solverclient after every answer. i became only 10 points after the first. The next 4 captcha have give no points and no negativ points.
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hi,
@blacksun :
- f1...fn are functions to detect if previous captcha should be complained, doesn't relate to current captcha. as much as i can remember, CC empty means no need.

- "OK-New" means that your captcha is waiting on the queue on CBH server
- "OK-On User" means that your captcha is sent to a user for solving
- "OK-Answered-xxxx" means that user answered your captcha, answer is xxxx

as you can see from your log :
29.08.2012 19:32:34 : captcha sent to server. Captcha code is kDXbv2tYnOT_2908201212
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29.08.2012 19:32:53 : result is : OK-on user-

your plugin sends the captcha at 19:32:34 and asks its result lastly at 19:32:53, which is only 19 seconds! here is the problem!!

a captcha may wait in the server for 80 seconds to be given to someone, and when its given to a user, that user has 30 seconds to solve it. putting some extra time for connection delays etc, we can say that it may take up to 120 seconds for a captcha to be solved at maximum. So the setting i mentioned before - GraphicalUserInterfaceSettings.captchadialogtimeout - should be set to 120, not 35. it was my fault to say 35 :(

- i honestly don't know what happens when two downloads want to use plugin at the same time

@Tom42 : did you check are you using JD2 and GraphicalUserInterfaceSettings.captchadialogtimeout setting?? it should be minimum of 120 seconds. there is also a similar setting with normal JD but i don't remember now :( also please send me your full log file and username to captchabrotherhood{at}gmail.com

@quick : please send me your username to captchabrotherhood{at}gmail.com

to JD Devs : is there a possibility to set GraphicalUserInterfaceSettings.captchadialogtimeout to 120 seconds by default? also where in the HDD is that setting kept? can i change it programmtically, or at least read it?
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Old 31.08.2012, 16:04
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your plugin sends the captcha at 19:32:34 and asks its result lastly at 19:32:53, which is only 19 seconds! here is the problem!!
...
GraphicalUserInterfaceSettings.captchadialogtimeout - should be set to 120, not 35. it was my fault to say 35 :(

- i honestly don't know what happens when two downloads want to use plugin at the same time

@Tom42 : did you check are you using JD2 and GraphicalUserInterfaceSettings.captchadialogtimeout setting?? it should be minimum of 120 seconds. there is also a similar setting with normal JD but i don't remember now :( also please send me your full log file and username to captchabrotherhood{at}gmail.com
i discussed the problem with Jiaz, one of the Dev of JD.
The Setting "GraphicalUserInterfaceSettings.captchadialogtimeout" is just the Time-Out-Time for the captcha-entering-Dialog.
At the moment, JD has a fix Time-Out of 30 seconds for waiting for an answer (--> output.txt) of an external method like CBH-Plugin
So the option doesn't have any effect on the time-out-time of an JAC-method like the CBH-Plugin.

I convinced Jiaz to set a higher Time-Out-Value of 70 seconds.

But only JD2 will get this update.
On JD1 (stable, nightly) there would be no further updates. Devs are concentraiting on the development of JD2.
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hi,
- f1...fn are functions to detect if previous captcha should be complained, doesn't relate to current captcha. as much as i can remember, CC empty means no need.

- "OK-New" means that your captcha is waiting on the queue on CBH server
- "OK-On User" means that your captcha is sent to a user for solving
- "OK-Answered-xxxx" means that user answered your captcha, answer is xxxx

as you can see from your log :
29.08.2012 19:32:34 : captcha sent to server. Captcha code is kDXbv2tYnOT_2908201212
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29.08.2012 19:32:53 : result is : OK-on user-

your plugin sends the captcha at 19:32:34 and asks its result lastly at 19:32:53, which is only 19 seconds! here is the problem!!
But what happend after 19 Seconds?? Why does the plugin finish after 19 seconds?
JD waits for an output-file for 30 seconds (and after update 70 seconds)


and because I am interested in the entries in the log, what do you mean with "complaining a captcha" and "CC..."?

Does the plugin has a interface you can say if a answer was correct??

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a captcha may wait in the server for 80 seconds to be given to someone, and when its given to a user, that user has 30 seconds to solve it. putting some extra time for connection delays etc, we can say that it may take up to 120 seconds for a captcha to be solved at maximum.
You said that the CBH-System gives the Captcha to someone. But I think the CBH-Systems gives the Captcha to 3 different solvers.
So the system get 3 answers, and if 2 or more answers the same phrase, this will be the correct answer which is sent back to me.
So, does it not take 3x 120 seconds at a maximum?

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i honestly don't know what happens when two downloads want to use plugin at the same time
Jiaz, the Dev of JD, says that JD serialize the requests, so a extern method like CBH can only run one times at the same time. --> http://board.jdownloader.org/showthread.php?t=41247
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...
2.
When I get a reCaptcha-Image like this on in the solver:

what shall I enter for the second word?

Normally reCaptcha use 2 Words. But in the last time I get many captchas like this one. you can only read one word
...
ReCAPTCHA uses two words:
- one word is the control word, which is a random letter combination created and distorted by the recaptcha server.
- the other "word" is a scanned image out of a book an old newspaper or whatever, which couldn't be definitely digitalized by OCR software (hence it is shown to a recaptcha user to let it solve him.)

Due to the nature of this: only the control word needs to be typed in correctly for a successful solve! For the other word you can type whatever you want.
See also wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ ReCAPTCHA

So in this case, just enter:
"stteam" [SPACE] and whack on your keyboard for some random letter combination and hit enter. I do it all the time and it works fine.

Hope this helps.

So much on the reCAPTCHA Issue.


@lelim / Captcha Brotherhood
I'm loosing also credits as others here already stated before. And I loose them without even using JD / CBH or something.
So I would strongly suggest you check your server security and if it has been hacked.

Please report back on this issue.

Thanks
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For most machines yourpath = %programfiles% if you did a standard JD install on Windows.

Check that yourpath\JDownloader\jd\captcha\methods\captchaBrotherhood\jacinfo.xml is being updated as this is the one that is used by JD CBH solver plugin.

If that does not answer you question read on. Check in JD log file on JD menu look for this log line after start JD:




That dir has the cbh integration stuff.

In "%APPDATA%\Captcha_Brotherhood\" is the cbh solver config and cbh log file that will tell you if the plugin is working properly.

In "%APPDATA%\Captcha_Brotherhood\pluginDir.txt" is path to JD plugin it will contain:



Installing solver puts stuff in
%programfiles%\Brotherhood Software\Captcha Brotherhood\
%programfiles%\JDownloader\jd\captcha\methods\captchaBrotherhood\
The latter may or may not be where you run JD from (but a copy of jacinfo.xml is updated there "update jacinfo file" menu option)

The above is what I find on my Win XP system.
:)

Hi, Skip au. Thanks for your reply, and sorry I took so long to answer.

I will try to include what information I can, following the order of your text.
I'm kind of walking on thin ice, because actually I don't quite understand how
this all works, so maybe at some point you might wonder: "Why is this guy including THIS bit of information, which has nothing to do with the subject?"
Excuse me if that happens.

I have a Windows 7 system.
I installed JDownloader and, a few days later, CBH solver. In both cases I used the default folder settings.
JDownloader installed in "C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\JDownloader 0.9".
CBH installed in
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Brotherhood Software\Captcha Brotherhood"
I don't know if this is alright.

I have two jacinfo.xml files: one in "C:\Program Files (x86)\JDownloader\jd\captcha\methods\captchaBrotherhood" and the other in "C:\Program Files (x86)\Brotherhood Software\Captcha Brotherhood\captchaBrotherhoodPlugin".
The first one contains entries for both filepost.com and rarefile.net. The second contains an entry for rarefile.net, but not for filepost.com

I checked the log file in JDownloader's "?", "Show log". I found many entries for "INFO [java_downloader]", but none of them
pointed to "JDownloader\jd\captcha\methods\captchaBrotherhood".

In my system, %appdata% is "C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming", but there's NO "Captcha_Brotherhood" folder in it. I also cannot find any file named "pluginDir.txt" in my whole HDD.

%programfiles% is "C:\Program Files". I don't have a "Brotherhood Software" folder or a "JDownloader" folder in it.

In spite of the fact that a few things don't seem to be OK with my system, let me remind you that CBH solver is working fine with other hosts, and so far it's only failed to solve filepost and rarefile captchas.

Thank you again!
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Old 01.09.2012, 02:01
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ReCAPTCHA uses two words:
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- the other "word" is a scanned image out of a book an old newspaper or whatever, which couldn't be definitely digitalized by OCR software (hence it is shown to a recaptcha user to let it solve him.)
...
I know how reCaptcha works. One word is already knows, the other word cannot be recognized by OCR.
That's not why I mentioned it here. In the last time I got so difficult reCaptchas so that it is often not possible to read the second word as human.
Of course, you could enter only the control-word, and as second word whatever you want.
you can do this when enter your own captchas. But for CBH it's not good.

I think (please correct if I am wrong) when you request a solving from other, the captcha goes to 3 different people. I think when 2 or 3 people enter the same, the CBH-system think that this is the correct answer and return this to you.
But think about when 3 people enter different things consciously.
which of the answer should the system turn back to the requester?

I think this is what lelim means with cheating.

This could be a Problem for a system which is based on comparing answers of different people which dont know each other.
F. ex. think of the captchas of solvemedia (which are used by rapidgator.net).
There are captchas which show you a symbol, brand, or something else and they say that you should descripe the captcha with any words.
F. ex. they show you the brand of cocaCola. One person say coke, the other one says cocacola, the third one says softdrink, etc.
All these answers are correct for the captcha-system, but how should a solving-system like CBH which is based on the answers of different people decide which one is the right one. The system doesnt know that there are more than one correct answer.

@ lelim
I discussed the problem of the waiting time again with Jiaz.
He will set the limit to 130 seconds. But only in JD2.
In JD1 there ist also a fixed value, and I think the devs will not change JD1.
So it's the best when some has the problem, he should use JD2, because the devs only work on JD2.

@lelim because of my problem
you say that my logfiles show no errors?
but, I think there a captchas which CBH cannot solve. What happens when CBH cannot find a answer? What does the system return then to the requester? How can I detect such a thing in the log?
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The Solver not work correctly at this time. I have answer 5 captcha an i stoped and restartet the Solverclient after every answer. i became only 10 points after the first. The next 4 captcha have give no points and no negativ points.
investigating this error put me in a problem of cuncurrent users. what i found out is : since number of our users increased pretty fast, system started to receive captcha requests much more frequently, then after some point, it started to give same captcha to several users who asked for a captcha in a very close time to each other, about one third of a second. that caused problems when multiple users sent answer for the same captcha. this is the reason why you couldn't get credits for the captchas that you solved. Worse, probably this affected others users too, but i don't know how many and since when :( . i didn't work with such a cuncurrency before, so it was exciting and challanging for me to overcome it. And the result is : i got it fixed, i hope it will not rise again. sorry for the inconvenience.

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I know how reCaptcha works. One word is already knows, the other word cannot be recognized by OCR.
That's not why I mentioned it here. In the last time I got so difficult reCaptchas so that it is often not possible to read the second word as human.
Of course, you could enter only the control-word, and as second word whatever you want.
you can do this when enter your own captchas. But for CBH it's not good.

I think (please correct if I am wrong) when you request a solving from other, the captcha goes to 3 different people. I think when 2 or 3 people enter the same, the CBH-system think that this is the correct answer and return this to you.
But think about when 3 people enter different things consciously.
which of the answer should the system turn back to the requester?

I think this is what lelim means with cheating.

This could be a Problem for a system which is based on comparing answers of different people which dont know each other.
F. ex. think of the captchas of solvemedia (which are used by rapidgator.net).
There are captchas which show you a symbol, brand, or something else and they say that you should descripe the captcha with any words.
F. ex. they show you the brand of cocaCola. One person say coke, the other one says cocacola, the third one says softdrink, etc.
All these answers are correct for the captcha-system, but how should a solving-system like CBH which is based on the answers of different people decide which one is the right one. The system doesnt know that there are more than one correct answer.

@ lelim
I discussed the problem of the waiting time again with Jiaz.
He will set the limit to 130 seconds. But only in JD2.
In JD1 there ist also a fixed value, and I think the devs will not change JD1.
So it's the best when some has the problem, he should use JD2, because the devs only work on JD2.

@lelim because of my problem
you say that my logfiles show no errors?
but, I think there a captchas which CBH cannot solve. What happens when CBH cannot find a answer? What does the system return then to the requester? How can I detect such a thing in the log?
blacksun : first of all, i want to thank you for your time investigating the problem and the info and modifications you got from Jiaz. Thoughts about the JD external plugin system and your answers:
- i think timeout duration for external captchas should be set by the plugins, maybe somewhere in the jacinfo.xml file of that plugin, or somewhere else, but it should be available somehow.
- another missing feature of the JD external plugin system is reporting the result of the captcha to the plugin. Since it doesn't exist, i found a way to detect if it was correct, but unfortunately its not reporting %100 proper results.

- CBH doesn't send one captcha to multiple users. it sends one captcha to one user. and sends back his answer to the jdownloader etc... if its detected that the answer was not correct, complain mechanism start to run, which is in upgrading phase now.
- I also don't suggest users to enter only one word, when there are 2 words readable. if there is only one word readable, then go with just writing that. but if there are 2 words readable, please write down both. otherwise, you may loose credits.
- by cheating i mean that some users write down anything not related to captcha image, instead like 222, qqq etc... they hope not being detected by complain system and earn credits that way. i am deleting few of them everyday by inspecting the answers.

- your logs has some errors. let me explain : our plugin first get some settings from the server and then sends the captcha to the server and starts to ask its state. those settings determine how many times and how frequent it should ask the state of its captcha, on phase 1 and phase 2. phase 1 is when captcha state is 'new', phase 2 is when captcha state is 'on user'. i checked the system and found that current settings were not proper. So i decresed the interval. this way its less likely to have trouble with getting captcha answers from the server. But of course, JD1 users may still have problems because of the fixed 30 seconds timeout.

- There is no captcha that CBH can't solve, because humans are solving them. If user can't answer in 30 seconds, 'user_timeout' is sent back as answer, which means he will get a complain and loose credits.

Those 2 problems, user cuncurrency and fixed timeouts, took my night to solve. i hope they will not rise again. if you have problems or suggestions, you can contact me on captchabrotherhood{at}gmail.com
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