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Old 11.10.2013, 13:00
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@Think3r: great news, thank you very much for your double-klick plans!

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This is wrong. In the tab "Download" there is a download overview at the bottom of the window. By default, it shows "smart information" meaning the shown information will be dependent from what you choose. You can also change its setting by clicking on the wheel icon.
mhmm, maybe I'm blind, but there was no such download overview at the bottom by default. By default you only can see the remaining download time of the actual package during download in the column. Not the remaining time to complete all packages.

But I found the answer in the enhanced options. Both things I missed in jD2 are very well hidden in here:
GUI: Downloadpanel overview settings visible
GUI: Downloadpanel overview visible

I think you meant this downloadpanel in your last post, but this isn't active by default, at least not yesterday as I installed.


So, almost all things are clear by now, thanks for your efforts! And both tickets with double-click and trim file/packagenames with spaces
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Old 11.10.2013, 13:39
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Guess another understand GUI issue, as you're green.

bottom right hand corner of JD there are images like panes (darker greyed frame) that toggles it on and off different components like stats. Linkgrabber has a second one for the filter panel on the right.

and you're welcome. you can search the svn ticket system http://svn.jdownloader.org/ there are many tickets outstanding.

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thanks, I found it. This thing in extended options is also very useful: GUI: Downloadpanel overview settings visible. Otherwise (I think) max threads/downloads are only accessable via context.


one last thing:
you severely changed the progress-bar. The old one in jD1 showed the progress in %, the downloaded megabytes and the total size of the package in only one column. To get these 3 informations in jD2 you have to activate 3 columns: total size, downloaded bytes and progress. It's not the biggest problem, but these three columns need more space than the old progress bar with all those infos.
Are there plans to realize the old progress bar in jD2?
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Old 11.10.2013, 16:05
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Don't believe so, columns shouldn't take much more space if your willing to loose text name. They can all be resized and locked, and placed where you want. This way it allows people to show what they want (or not).
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Also, If the space is a problem, you can enable the:
Settings > Advanced Settings >
GraphicalUserInterfaceSettings: Horizontal Scrollbars In Download Table and
GraphicalUserInterfaceSettings: Horizontal Scrollbars In Linkgrabber Table
restart JD2 is required.
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Old 12.10.2013, 00:33
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thanks, I tried some things, but in the end it's best to wait for the double click feature. Then there's no need for showing the download directory anymore.

Bug in German translation:
entry in context menu "extract after download" was translated to "Nach dem Download nicht entpacken". Nicht = not is unnecessary/wrong

EDIT by Think3r: Unfortunately no translation bug, otherwise I'd change it, immediately.

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Old 12.10.2013, 14:03
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mhmm, why not?

If "extract after download" is activated in context menu, the downloaded package will be extracted. So far, so good.

The very same context entry in German GUI is called "Nach dem Download nicht entpacken". And if you activate this, the downloaded package still will be extracted.

Give it a try


Screen english vs german gui



EDIT by Think3r: Trust me, I'm an engin...no wait. I already checked it, it's not a problem of translation but of the wrong keys used. The translation is correct, the keys have to be changed.

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Old 15.10.2013, 14:50
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I think one of the best feature of jd1 is the package information window in the linkgrabber window!
Add it to JD2

I'll add an example in these pictures:
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yes, by far the easiest way to edit package name, download directory and of course toggle extract/don't extract ...

the sooner it's added to jd2 again, the better it'd be
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Old 21.10.2013, 19:13
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Old 21.10.2013, 21:01
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Old 22.10.2013, 15:00
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great news
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Old 25.10.2013, 21:12
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Is there a way to return the speed limit, max simultaneous downloads, etc. to the bottom bar?

It was more convenient to access where it originally was and the bottom bar is largely empty in JD2.

After spending the past 4 hours with JD2, I'm done with it. Most of that time has been spent trying to get it to work right.

Features that were readily accessible in JD1 are buried under multiple clicks, submenus, advanced features or just difficult to get to.

The layout is cluttered and mostly uninformative.
I feel like a T-rex at the keyboard. It's awkward to use and everything is just a bit out of reach.

I WANT to like JDownloader 2. I'm thrilled you guys are still working hard on this project. There are some legitimately good fixes (Ctrl Alt Delete doesn't effect it (finally), the ability to search files/packages is great), but it is mostly full of 'improvements' that are a step backwards.

Please don't kill JD1, it is just plain superior.

Want specifics? See any number of the posts I've recently made on this section of the forum?

More? Okay, if I want to change the download directory.
JD1: Double click file/package. Properties/package/filename pane opens. Type changes. No further action.

JD2: Right click file/package. Select Properties. Find and select Set Download Directory. Navigate to directory or type it in. Click Save.

Adjust speedlimit:
JD1: Type it in at the bottom.
JD2: Click icon on bottom right that looks like it should mean 'settings' or 'configuration' but obviously doesn't. Click and adjust limit. Click again to close the box.

Why does highlighting follow the pointer by default? It's slow and awkward.

For all these settings being a couple more clicks away, why does the interface still look more cluttered instead of less? We have 3 columns replacing what the single progress bar did in JD1.

Like I said, I like that you guys are working on this, but I think you're going the wrong direction.

Edit: And the uninstaller doesn't work. Chose not to keep settings or lists and there are 11 files and 2 folders left behind (including Uninstall Jdownloader.exe).

Any chance I can get a list of what is likely to have been left in the registry as well?

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Old 26.10.2013, 01:02
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when is this happening?
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Old 26.10.2013, 01:05
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There is no ETA. Probably the next week, but who knows.
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Old 26.10.2013, 01:16
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Oh cheers.
I will wait and watch.

I would like to see the limits back on the bottom and the original icons at the top. The newer ones all look pretty similar to each other.

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Old 26.10.2013, 01:30
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@CuF: powerusers like us need to change jD2 a lot. I've also spent hours to make it more comfortable. It's really nice, that most things are changeable. You have to try the advanced settings.
Previous version was nearly perfect regarding "workflow", but obviously a strong focus in jD2 is design.

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Is there a way to return the speed limit, max simultaneous downloads, etc. to the bottom bar?
yes: enable these two points:
GraphicalUserInterfaceSettings: Downloadpanel overview settings visible
GraphicalUserInterfaceSettings: Downloadpanel overview visible

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Features that were readily accessible in JD1 are buried under multiple clicks, submenus, advanced features or just difficult to get to.
right. But you can easily customize the context menu for your needs. Until the well known and in jD2 extremely missed package information window (double-click on package in jD1) comes back, customizing the menu is a decent possibility.

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More? Okay, if I want to change the download directory.
JD1: Double click file/package. Properties/package/filename pane opens. Type changes. No further action.
yes. It will come back.

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Why does highlighting follow the pointer by default? It's slow and awkward.
yes. You have to change the colors of a few lines in the settings. The best thing is to change backgrounds to white. No highlighting/mouse over effects and no alternating white/lightblue or grey backgrounds.
If you're done, you will be extremely pleased with the result and speed. But be careful, don't take the wrong lines.

The ones you need to change to white (#ffffff): LAFsettings:
* Color for panel background
* Color for panel header background
* Color for table alternate row background
* Color for table mouse over row background
* Color for table package row background

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For all these settings being a couple more clicks away, why does the interface still look more cluttered instead of less? We have 3 columns replacing what the single progress bar did in JD1.
we have to accept this until more users try the new version. I think it's a question of time.
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Old 26.10.2013, 01:33
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@romeon thanks for your feedback.
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Old 26.10.2013, 16:22
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@romeon
First of all, thanks for the feedback.
Also, it is NOT our goal to improve the design and at the same time, lose usability.
We want to improve both so we're always happy when our users tell us what they like or don't like.

1. The Download overview can also be enabled in the GUI.
It's the grey icon on the right buttom side, next to the green "All Downloads" arrow.
Also, the overview will be enabled via default for all finished JD2 versions so this point is already done

2. Even after the package information/settings are back, the custom menus will be useful!

3. Do you think a setting for highlighting/not highlighting would make sense?

4. Agree, the progress stuff is a bit messed up.
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Old 26.10.2013, 22:19
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How does the speed limit work exactly?

Because i can limit it and from what i can see on my bandwidth monitor it doesn't seem to work properly.

I limit it to say 40kb\s and it goes down below 40kb then up over it, then way down, then up a bit more, rinse and repeat.
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Old 27.10.2013, 04:21
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Quite sure that the speed limiter will work off the average speed not current speed. In JD2 speed graphic there is average and current speed
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Old 27.10.2013, 07:53
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Quite sure that the speed limiter will work off the average speed not current speed. In JD2 speed graphic there is average and current speed
I'm not sure what you mean, i was monitoring my speed through a separate program i wasn't looking at jd.
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I'm not sure what you mean, i was monitoring my speed through a separate program i wasn't looking at jd.
The Speedlimit, is a average Limit.
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The Speedlimit, is a average Limit.
why?
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Old 27.10.2013, 22:02
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I dont know. Ask raztoki.
Maybe its a bug...

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Also, it is NOT our goal to improve the design and at the same time, lose usability.
We want to improve both so we're always happy when our users tell us what they like or don't like.
ok, no offense. In comparison to the great jD1-usability there were some disadvantages in jD2, so it looked a bit like that.

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1. The Download overview can also be enabled in the GUI.
It's the grey icon on the right buttom side, next to the green "All Downloads" arrow.
yes, I saw this already, but it's not obvious to most users. However speed limit, max simultaneous downloads etc is only reachable uncomfortable via context menu. By changing the mentioned option in advanced settings these things can be switched always at the bottom. Like jD1.

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2. Even after the package information/settings are back, the custom menus will be useful!
no doubt! I like them a lot.

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3. Do you think a setting for highlighting/not highlighting would make sense?
I really don't know. On slow machines highlighing brings no benefits. To be honest I don't see any advantages in highlighting lines in downloaders at all. Pretty the same with these alternating white/lightblue or grey line backgrounds. In combination with highlighting they confuse much more than they help. You can try my color changes in my last post above and I'm sure you won't disagree.
Of course I can't say if I'm the only who cares about this. So, it's up to you, my solution is acceptable for me, no need for additional settings. Maybe for others, I really don't know ...
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Old 28.10.2013, 14:50
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@romeon
1. The settings like max.dls and max.con can also be enabled via manu, see downloadoverview options.
As said, all of this will be enabled by default for all JD2 versions once the next major update is out so JD1 users won't miss anything as long as they got the default settings.

3. Ok thanks for the feedback.

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Why THIS ticket is closed??????

As i see at the latest jd2 alpha still DOESN'T HAS IT so i believe it must stay opened and NOT closed.
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Stop shouting at us and wait for an answer of the developers.

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Use Strg|CTRL + Left Click on a column header!

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This updated version is a bug with high CPU loading

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New JD2 Analysis window is no longer active window on top .
I wonder if that reason does not crash when analyzing JD2 many links ...


Note: Previous active window (lock) "without closing" possible Crawling a lot links without crashing.

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This updated version is a bug with high CPU loading
Please post your log...

I'm agree with this, I checked one computer of one of my friends, and saw the same problem. However I didn't create the log.

Edit: @aposaw please make a new thread for your issue.
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I'm agree with this, I checked one computer of one of my friends, and saw the same problem. However I didn't create the log.

Edit: @aposaw please make a new thread for your issue.


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bug???
the list of links (offline) Linkgrabber -> links offline unselect
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@aposaw please create a new thread here: http://board.jdownloader.org/forumdisplay.php?f=50
thanks,

@djmakinera this thread is not to report bugs, you are not a new user in the forum, you know how it works. Create a new thread for that.
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BUG: "Add to Download List" doesn't show for files in the Linkgrabber-context menu

Previously I could select a few entries from the list and send only those to the download list, now I have to delete all the other entries and then send the whole remaining list over to the download list.

EDIT:
OK, found the reason for this: The update change a setting without notifying me: http://board.jdownloader.org/showpos...15&postcount=1
Rude.

Unchecking "Autostart Download" returns the contexmenu-item.

Please consider this the next time...

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Please no bugreports here!
Feedback = Do you like/not like it - post suggestions!
NO BUGREPORTS!

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Default Feature request, JD 2.0 beta auto:reconnect

Simple request.

Would love an option for the auto-reconnect script for "maximum reconnects per day / hour" or something. I'd like to do ... maybe 3 a day? no more than that.
Any chance of this (or does it already exist and I've missed it?)
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It doesn't exist.
Why do you need that?

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