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Old 02.05.2015, 16:13
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For help look here: JD opens my browser to display captchas

It seems that these options doesn't work at the moment.

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Old 02.05.2015, 16:17
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@blacksun

think the idea is that the browser loop kicks in, gets image and passes back into jd, which should then goto dialog or CES. It should highly benefit CES sites with easier captchas, and cost you less captchas with bad solves.

Probably best to wait for coalado to respond, as I haven't used CES since captchatrader died.
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Old 02.05.2015, 16:29
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Ich hoffe nur das sehr viele User das neue Feature "Browser-loop" nutzen. Die einfacheren Captchas erleichtern die Arbeit der "Captcha-Solvers" ungemein. Die fleissigen Helfer die da hinter stecken werden es einem danken.:)
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Old 02.05.2015, 16:36
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Old 02.05.2015, 17:10
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Abschalten der neuen Funktion?
Hallo s6bit
Ich bin zwar kein Experte aber ich hatte das selbe Problem wie Du. Mein Browser hat sich ebenfalls automatisch geöffnet mit der Fehlermeldung die Adresse 127.001 sei nicht erreichbar bzw. ein Fenster mit dieser recaptchameldung in der zwar ein Link mit einer Hilfeseite angeführt war aber da meine englischkenntnisse sehr bescheiden sind konnte ich nichts damit anfangen, aber durch einiges herumprobieren habe ich jetzt glaub ich eine Lösung gefunden:
Im JD2 unter Einstellungen - Profieinstellungen - habe ich die Haken bei Browser Loop und bei Browser Loop During Silent Mode rausgenommen - bis jetzt hat sich der browser nicht wieder ungefragt geöffnet und die Captcha die als unglöst gelten werden wieder übersprungen wie bisher.
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Old 02.05.2015, 17:18
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ok, now i unterstand.
loop and browser solver, both use browser, but they dont deal with each other.

browser solver is simply a new solver, not more.


somewhere here in thread, someone mentioned that with "loop", it isnt possible to solve recaptcha via MyJD-Solver. Is there a reason for this?
I Think, these easier captchas would be also solvable via MyJD.



I think you have the same "problem" like I had.

LOOP is only for getting captcha via browser, rest is the same by JD as before update.
BrowserCaptchaSolver is only a new solver.

you simply disabled the solver, not the loop-feature. you have to disable both if you dont want to use browser.
solved with removing checkbox BrowserCaptchaSolver: Browser Loop
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Old 02.05.2015, 17:40
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Abschalten der neuen Funktion?
Hallo s6bit
Ich bin zwar kein Experte aber ich hatte das selbe Problem wie Du. Mein Browser hat sich ebenfalls automatisch geöffnet mit der Fehlermeldung die Adresse 127.001 sei nicht erreichbar bzw. ein Fenster mit dieser recaptchameldung in der zwar ein Link mit einer Hilfeseite angeführt war aber da meine englischkenntnisse sehr bescheiden sind konnte ich nichts damit anfangen, aber durch einiges herumprobieren habe ich jetzt glaub ich eine Lösung gefunden:
Im JD2 unter Einstellungen - Profieinstellungen - habe ich die Haken bei Browser Loop und bei Browser Loop During Silent Mode rausgenommen - bis jetzt hat sich der browser nicht wieder ungefragt geöffnet und die Captcha die als unglöst gelten werden wieder übersprungen wie bisher.
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Auf der besagten Hilfe Seite steht, unter anderem "Disable No Script and Adblock for hxxp://127.0.0.1

Most browser captchas require javascript. Please make sure that nopscript and Adblock are disabled for hxxp://127.0.0.1"

Verwendest du die Plugins "noscript" oder "Adblock". Dies kann dann zu Problemen führen, darum sollst du für "**External links are only visible to Support Staff** Ausnahmen hinzufügen. D.h. den Zugriff zulassen!

Der Vorteil ist, dass du durch Aktivieren von "Browser Loop" einfachere Captchas bekommst. Diese bestehen dann nur aus einem simplem Wort.

Der Nachteil ist eben, dass dieses im Moment nur durch automatisches "Öffnen" und "Schließen" des Browserfensters geht. Das sollte aber kein Problem sein denke ich. Der Vorteil überwiegt ganz deutlich. Probiere es einfach mal aus.

Ich hatte, dass Problem das ständig neue Fenster geöffnet wurden. Die Lösung fand ich in der Hilfe Datei.

Code:
The Browser Tabs do not get closed in Firefox

You can enable auto close by javascript.

Go to the page "about:config"
Search for "dom.allow_scripts_to_close_windows"
Switch to true
Ab da gab es keine Probleme mehr.
Falls du Hilfe benötigst, einfach hier nach Fragen.
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Old 02.05.2015, 23:41
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Default HSID and SID values?

Could anybody help me with my question from today morning:
Which HSID and SID values from which browser and which google.?? cookies I should select?
Is there any chance to get a simple google CAPTCHA back - currently independent from my HSID and SID values - I am getting for simple and complex CAPTCHA both times a difficult google CAPTCHA shown in the test window?
Thanks for your kind advise!

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Old 03.05.2015, 02:52
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Just used it on some safelinking files and it works great. It even lets you cycle to find one easier to read. Nice job guys! No more guessing over and over at those impossible cacpchas. I am always reluctant to try a beta but I'm glad I did this time. It took some time to get my settings figured out but once I did I couldn't be more pleased.
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Old 03.05.2015, 17:26
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Ich nutze im Moment die Option "Browser Solver" mit mit meinem Standard-Browser!

Bei geschlossenem Firefox hieß es jetzt mehrmals: Seiten-Ladefehler
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Fehler: Verbindung fehlgeschlagen

Firefox kann keine Verbindung zu dem Server unter 127.0.0.1:24613 aufbauen.

Eine Idee woran das liegen könnte?
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Old 04.05.2015, 01:47
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Got this new feature since my update today.
Do you plan on keeping it like that or do you plan to improve it by using another solution like directly using a renderengine and not my standard browser?
Because it's kinda annoying when I get thrown out of my work/surfing because another tab/window takes the focus.
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Old 04.05.2015, 01:50
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You should already be able to configure it so that you don't even notice it afaik.
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Old 04.05.2015, 03:32
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Hm does not seem to be like that.
Old system: JD balloon message pops up telling me it wants a captcha but my focus remains in the window I was in.
New system: Captcha gets opened/closed in FF but I also lose my focus.

You could get the current focus, then give the captcha to FF and instantly set the focus back to the previous window.
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Since I don't have chrome a question to the --app switch mentioned earlier. Would this then run a version of chrome in the background without grabbing my focus?

@psp; yes I did.

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Old 04.05.2015, 03:46
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Please wait for the answer of coalado tomorrow.
Have you read this thread?
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Old 04.05.2015, 06:00
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@zrato

chrome app mode runs in a separate window and not in tabs for each url opened. It doesn't have a standard chrome GUI, just a window frame with website inside. It's useful because if you're a chrome user or not it wont interrupt your browser.

I use primary use opera12 and chrome(for testing purposes) and I didn't want these captcha tasks from interrupting the primary GUI. That is why I recommended to coalado a way to set a different browser to open captcha tasks than your standard browser.
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Old 05.05.2015, 00:24
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Default Automatic captcha solving not working anymore

Hello,

automatic captcha solving stopped working with the last update (current as of today) of JD2 (core #30106).
Instead the first and only attempt is made with the browser assisted manual method. A new browser tab is opened each time but never closes. Adblock and Ghostery is disabled on 127.0.0.1.
Activated solvers and timeouts are default, I even tried to reset the timeouts. Didn't bring the automatic solver back :-(

Any suggestions or hints are appreciated!
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Well automatic solving depends on the captchas.
Only the reCaptcha V2 with the "tick box" can be solved automatically.
All others NEVER had an automatic recognition!
Please post screenshots of the captchas that you think, JD should be able to solve automatically.
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Our Captcha FAQ also explains very well which captchas can be auto-solved and why/why not.
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Old 05.05.2015, 03:34
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The captchas are from filer.net. According to your FAQ list JD2 can solve them,
and, in fact, there was no problem before the last update.
I don't even see anymore that JD2 is trying to solve the captchas. It' simply trying manual browser assisted method only.
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No they use reCaptcha which we never had any automatic recognition for, see captcha FAQ "reCaptcha".
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Old 05.05.2015, 04:18
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Exclamation Show CAPTCHA in browser fails with IE11

As the title states, IE11 (on Win7 x64) is opened (or if already running a new tab is opened), I very briefly see the following partial CAPTCHA page (no CAPTCHA visible) and then the window/tab closes.

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If I set BrowserCaptchaSolver: Browser Commandline to Firefox 37.0.2 it works properly. Is this a bug in JD2?
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Old 05.05.2015, 04:33
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I'm confused. JD2 DID solve captchas from filer.net in the past (1-2 weeks ago). It was not 100% successful sometimes, but after a certain amount of tries the solution was accepted.
Every time there was a captcha to solve, a window opened showing the captcha and the calculated solution. Sometimes it ran into a timeout and another window appeared (max. ~4 or 5). I do not hallucinate this!
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If you do use my.jdownloader.org we sometimes have a serverside solver active but not always so this is definitly NOT to be seen as an issue!
Officially there is no automatic recognition available for these captchas!
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Default Captcha is opening tabs in default browser

I don't know if I accidentally clicked on something that would've changed/created this behavior but I've never seen it before. For some unknown reason captchas are being sent to a new browser tab every time a new one is presented. I had 848 tabs opened when I came back to my desktop. This is the first time this has occurred.

I haven't been in the configuration, other than to check on a filter, in a long time so I can't imagine that I did something accidentally.

Here is one url (out of the 848) **External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff** they are listed with a title of ReCAPTCHA-input in my browser history. And a second just for comparison: **External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**

Build #30106
Core #2857
Launcher #2330
Browser #30015
Updater #443

I've attached a file that shows a section of the configuration that I thought may be related? Although this was nothing that I set. I've never even seen this section before.
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@netgearjd
please read this thread and the support article about this feature, specially the trouble shooting. You probably need to change IE cross site scripting rules, and or disable any no script/adblock type of extensions.

@cityguy
please read this thread and the support article about this feature.

PS to both, searching forum should have found this thread...
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Old 05.05.2015, 19:22
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Default Browser Loop Issue

Hi!

I used the new browser solver system, that works perfectly.

But I see that JD doesn't close the browser tab opened!

I use Firefox (last version).

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05.05.15 18.09.02to05.05.15 18.20.30 jdlog://4443083179241/

Thanks in advance!

ps. I have an another question: if I add a myjdownloader account, then JD can solve automatically the captchas?
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See here, troubleshooting-guide:
https://support.jdownloader.org/inde...splay-captchas
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Old 05.05.2015, 23:59
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If you do use my.jdownloader.org we sometimes have a serverside solver active but not always so this is definitly NOT to be seen as an issue!
Officially there is no automatic recognition available for these captchas!
There was an JD2 update some minutes ago (core #30176), and guess what, it's working again. 20 mins before the update it wasn't. You can now continue to tell me there was no issue. You can also tell me that you reactivated the "sometimes running serverside solver"... whatever... despite all your explanations it's working again.

I send many thanks to the developer who probably accidentally read my post and fixed my problem instead of telling me that I don't have one!
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As said, it is up to us to enable/disable serverside captcha solving and should not be considered as a bug.
This and nothing else is what I stated i my post and it was not ment to be offending in any way.
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As said, it is up to us to enable/disable serverside captcha solving and should not be considered as a bug.
This and nothing else is what I stated i my post and it was not ment to be offending in any way.
I didn't say anything about a bug. I had a problem and asked for assistance. No more, no less.
Maybe you could've just said: "Hey guys, we have serverside captcha solving! Sometimes. Don't count on it. We activate it some time and deactivate it at other times. This time it's not active and we don't know when it's going to be back." It's just that easy.
Even though I still don't think it's just like that, because it stopped working with one update and started working again with another update. Coincidence? Bad luck? You still have the chance to clarify on that! I could not find a changelog for any of the two versions.
But that's not the point. It's OK to tell people to read the FAQs, but moving unsolved problems into the solved area without really trying to identify them is just offensive, at least to me.

But let's stop here. It's working again. Other people with the same problem can identify and solve it; only that's important.

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As far as I know, it is not always active and we never actively advertised it because once g00gle finds out about that, they will probably take measures against it so *psst*
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Old 06.05.2015, 14:24
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Bei aktiviertem Captcha-Solver "My.Downloader" ist die Funktion "Browser-Loop" ausgehebelt. Ich habe in die Blacklist "recaptcha, share-online.biz" eingetragen. Der Solver wird nicht aktiv, Files von Share-Online werden übersprungen, dennoch funktioniert "Browser-Loop" nicht.

Das gleiche gilt für dem "Account Manager" zugefügten und aktivierten "Google.com" Account. In diesem Fall wird diese Funktion deaktiviert. Man bekommt auch hier nur die "Standard Captchas". Könnte sich das mal jemand anschauen?

Im Moment kann man das Problem nur beheben in dem man "My.Downloader" generell deaktiviert. Man kann ihn also nicht für andere Hoster (White-Liste) nutzen.

Dann noch eine Frage zu im "Account Manager" eingetragenen Accounts.
Kann ich sicher sein, dass hier ein deaktivierter Account (Häckchen raus) wirklich deaktiviert ist und keinerlei Informationen noch ausgetauscht werden?
Die Frage bezieht sich genau genommen auf "Google.com (recaptcha)".

Von allen Neuerungen hat sich der des "Browser-Loops" als am besten und am zuverlässigsten herausgestellt. Das Nutzen von "HSID/SID" führt schnell zu schweren Captchas, meiner Meinung auch dann, wenn die Captchas korrekt gelöst oder übersprungen werden. Dies gilt nicht für "Browser-Loop". Diese Captchas bestehen nur aus einem Wort und sind sehr gut zu lesen und zu lösen.:thumbup:

Bei schlechten "HSID/SID"-Werten funktioniert "Google.com (recaptcha)" ebenfalls nicht, was auch nicht verwunderlich ist. Da, wenn ich es richtig verstanden habe, auf die gleichen Cookies zugegriffen wird. Die Optionen "HSID/SID" in den "Erweiterten Einstellungen" können wohl entfernt werden, da sie jetzt überflüssig sind.
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Old 06.05.2015, 14:35
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Wir werden implementieren, dass der My.Jdownloader Autosolver die alten Captchas kriegt, und die manuellen Modi den besser lesbaren. Gleichzeitig arbeiten wir an einer besseren Erkennungsmethode. Allerdings wird das sicherlich noch ca. 2 Wochen dauern. Es lohnt sich deshalb momentan nicht für zwei Wochen Sonderlösungen zu programmieren.

Wenn du bei einem Account den Hacken raus machst, wird er auch nicht genutzt.


Zu deinem Feedback:
Mit eingetragenem Google.com Account kriegst du trotzdem relativ schnell "schlechte" captchas?


Die SID/HSID Variante kann wirklich raus.
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Old 06.05.2015, 14:57
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Zum Feedback: Da habe ich mich nicht korrekt ausgedrückt. Das kann ich im Moment tatsächlich so nicht bestätigen, My.Jdownloader hat hier ja reingefuscht. Ich kann nur soviel sagen, der Account der "schlechte" "HSID/SID"-Werte hat. Bekommt bei eingetragenen und aktivierten "Google.com" Account, die Standard-Captchas. Nicht die "schlechten"-Captchas die einem bei dem "HSID/SID" Tester angezeigten Captchas.

Also, erst einmal Entwarnung. Ich muss, dass erst noch länger testen. JD2 hat im Moment nicht zu tun.

Ergänzung: Wenn "Browser-Loop" aktiviert wird, sollte diese Funktion, unabhängig von dem was man sonst noch so eingestellt hat, aktiv sein. Zu "Browser-Loop" fehlen ja weitere Optionen.

Wie gestern schon erwähnt, sollte diese Option auch unter "Captcha" aktivierbar sein.

Test 1:

9 Files - heruntergeladen
9kw.eu - Solver

7 - richtig gelöst
1 - falsch gelöst
4 - Solves per Hand abgebrochen

HSID/SID Cookie Tester zeigt "schlechte" Captchas,
d.h. die "einfachen" Captchas über Google.com (recaptcha) sind auch nicht von Dauer.

Allerdings muss ich gestehen, dass ich mich im Browser mit einem anderen Google Account angemeldet habe
und mehrere Google-Dienste genutzt habe um dort "humaner" eingestuft zu werden.

Tja, jetzt muss ich wohl auch noch testen, wie sich das ganze verhält, wenn ich sowohl im JD2 als auch im
Browser mit ein und dem selben Account eingeloggt bin. HSID/SID Cookie Tester zeigt "schlechte" Captchas,

Test 2:

25 Files - heruntergeladen
9kw.eu - Solver

23 - richtig gelöst
0 - falsch gelöst
2 - Solves per Hand

Im JD2 und Browser wurde diesmal derselbe Google Account verwendet. Es wurden exakt 22 "Easy Captchas" geladen, dann gab es wieder die "Standard Captchas". HSID/SID Werte per Hand eingegeben, zeigen im Cookie Tester die "Hard Captchas" an.

Die "Hard Captchas" hatte ich selber nur ein einziges mal, bei Verwendung des Solvers My.JDownloaders. Es gab wohl viele falsche Captchas-Lösungen. Das Problem mit den "Hard Captchas" konnte ich aber wieder durch Löschen der Chronik, neuer IP-Adresse und einem Neustart des JD2 beheben.

Ich könnte noch testen wie zuverlässig der "Browser Loop" ist.

Test 3:

52 Files - heruntergeladen
9kw.eu - Solver

44 - richtig gelöst
0 - falsch gelöst
8 - Solves per Hand

Den Test habe ich nach 52 heruntergeladenen Dateien beendet.

Ergebnis:

Von den Beiden neu eingeführten "Captchas-Varianten" der Recaptchas, hat sich gezeigt, dass für mich
"Browser Loop" am zuverlässigsten funktioniert. Bei mir lief "Browser Loop" einen Tag und lieferte konstant
die leicht zulösenden Captchas.

Wer selber einen Captcha Solver wie "9kw.eu" oder "CBH" nutzt und seine Kredits auffrischt, weiß die einfach
zu lösenden Captchas zu schätzen (Browser Loop - liefert Captchas die aus 5 Buchstaben bestehen).

Darum tut euch und anderen den Gefallen und nutzt "Browser Loop". Diese Funktion kann man unter
"Erweiterte Einstellungen" finden - "BrowserCaptchaSolver: Browser Loop" aktivieren.

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Default captchas open blank browser pages

every time a captcha popup appears a new browser page is opened.
the last one i got tried to open this link:**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**
i disabled the browser dialog captcha solver but i still have the same trouble.
is there a way to leave my browser alone?

log:
also i wasn't able to select and copy the log id in that window

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Have you read this?
https://support.jdownloader.org/inde...splay-captchas

Short answer:
Browser captchas enabled = easy captchas
Browser captchas disabled = Hard captchas
See also our Captcha FAQ point 5.
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thank you for providing that link and the FAQ reference and excuse me for having missed it.
i disabled every browsercaptchasolver option in the advanced options since i'm very used to decipher hard captchas
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Okay thanks for your feedback.
Note that there are 2 captcha types which only work via browsercaptcha but they re so rare that you will probably never get them anyways
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@llz
you really need to have browser solver enabled moving forward.
any site that uses recaptchav2, sweetcaptcha, confidentcaptcha, areyouahumancaptcha will be using browser solver.

recaptchav1 we have expanded HSID and SID cookie so that browser loop isn't required, if you goto account manager > add google.com (recaptcha) account > place in your google account, you wont get a browser loop window (the one that opens and closes within seconds). I assume it would be wise to delete HSID and SID references in advanced first, if you're using them.

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@llz, you're very used to decipher hard captchas. I prefer loop captchas! See the different:

Easy Captchas:



Standard Captchas:



Hard Captchas:



Loop Captchas:

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Hallo Team,

Wenn ich den JD als aktives Fenster habe und der Browser Solver wird aktiv, öffnet sich Firefox und wird automatisch das aktive Fenster. So ist es super.

Wenn ich allerdings den Firefox schon offen und als aktives Fenster habe, springt der JD in den Vordergrund und bleibt da (vermutlich durch das Browser Solver Popup?). Ich "muss" dann manuell zum Firefox wechseln, oder den Button klicken, wodurch allerdings ein zweiter neuer JD-Tab geöffnet wird.

Ich weis es ist nur eine Kleinigkeit, wollte es aber trotzdem mal melden.

Gruß

P.S. Der Browser-Solver und Loop sind super, Danke dafür.
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