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Old 13.11.2013, 13:17
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Default [Over done] Deleting completed links shows the dialog box again

Deleting completed links shows the dialog box again..

Hello why is this stupid problem come back again?

And this time I can't find
showdeletelinksdialogoption in advance settings..

please dev, we do not want this stupid dialog box appear each time..
-disable it or put a
-checkbox - I do not want to see this again.

When we delete stuff we don't want it done permanently from hdd.
If we do, we would use explorer for that!!!!

How many times do we need to say it?
Just let us use the program without treating us like babies..
by popping up these stupid annoying dialog boxes..

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Old 13.11.2013, 16:45
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Yea I came here looking for the solution too.
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Screenshot please - what exactly do you mean?

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Old 13.11.2013, 19:06
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the new dialog says i can set the option so that that dialogue won't show up again. but where is this option and how is it called. Previously there was an option called "GraphicalUserInterfaceSettings: Show Delete Links Dialog Option". It's gone now.

Here are the Screenshots (german):

second dialog:


expert settings filtered with "dialog":


So at this time there is no way to delete downloaded links without confiramation except for pressing STRG+DEL
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Old 13.11.2013, 19:18
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Sorry, I don't know it at the moment.
Please visit our supportchat between 9-18 o clock, German working days and contact jiaz/coalado and ask them.

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Old 13.11.2013, 19:52
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I only know, that coalado changed this yesterday.
In menu manager for Delete menu items there are new options:
<Bypass the "Really?" dialog>
<Delete Files from Harddisk, too>

I didn't set them, because I don't need these options, therefor I don't know how they work.
I don't know, whether it's enough to set them for one delete menu item, and then all will be the same, or have to set for every delete menu item.

Maybe it worth a try.
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Old 13.11.2013, 21:06
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Old 13.11.2013, 21:08
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I only know, that coalado changed this yesterday.
In menu manager for Delete menu items there are new options:
<Bypass the "Really?" dialog>
<Delete Files from Harddisk, too>

I didn't set them, because I don't need these options, therefor I don't know how they work.
I don't know, whether it's enough to set them for one delete menu item, and then all will be the same, or have to set for every delete menu item.

Maybe it worth a try.
I think you need to do it for each delete

really annoying, since they reset the menu after each update
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Old 13.11.2013, 21:11
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thanks, bici-boci! That worked. Didn't know that menu

But I think there could be a better place for that setting.
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Old 13.11.2013, 21:16
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You can't set this option for

-delete links - finished



Also need to set this option for each delete
-delete
-delete submenu




please just give us one master option/setting like in advance settings like before
-showdeletelinksdialogoption

We do not want to be bugged by these stupid dialogs..

Delete any links in linkgrabber
No way to disable this..
-Are you sure you want to do this? Delete selected links



There needs to be a way to permanently disable these stupid confirmation boxes..
cos it is driving me nuts..


Prior to the most recent update, there was none of these confirm boxes, or we could disable all of it from advance settings.
Now we need to do it for each menu item.
And some can't be disable at all.

Also it is likely the menu settings will be reset after each update anyways.

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Old 14.11.2013, 05:15
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I too came here looking for a way to remove this option and to not show the dialog at all.

There should be an option to set a default action from those shown presently BUT to have the option to disable the prompt via a check-box.

It would also be ideal to have the option show again following any updates that change the behaviour of the setting to ensure that the user's preference isn't altered to a state that causes data loss of their links and/or files.

Besides that, why add an apparent safety feature (appears to me to be a cumbersome 'delete confirmation' type dialog) like this and then have it's default button set to the un-safe option of delete and not cancel as it defeats part of the purpose of the dialog appearing.
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Old 14.11.2013, 07:56
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I too came here looking for a way to remove this option and to not show the dialog at all.

There should be an option to set a default action from those shown presently BUT to have the option to disable the prompt via a check-box.

It would also be ideal to have the option show again following any updates that change the behaviour of the setting to ensure that the user's preference isn't altered to a state that causes data loss of their links and/or files.

Besides that, why add an apparent safety feature (appears to me to be a cumbersome 'delete confirmation' type dialog) like this and then have it's default button set to the un-safe option of delete and not cancel as it defeats part of the purpose of the dialog appearing.
The solution is very simple

Only delete the links from the JD but not permanently delete from HDD.

If we want permanent, we would use Explorer.


Now the developer can disable any confirmation dialog boxes, cos it won't be necessary anymore.
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Old 14.11.2013, 08:24
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Only delete the links from the JD but not permanently delete from HDD.
If we want permanent, we would use Explorer.
It was requested by another user: http://board.jdownloader.org/showthread.php?t=52722
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Old 14.11.2013, 08:36
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It was requested by another user: http://board.jdownloader.org/showthread.php?t=52722
that isnt at all what we are talking about.

that user is asking for an option to set something other than just removing the links from the list.

what this thread is talking about is that the dialog comes up EVEN though a default has been set. simply put, the dialog is annoying and unnecessary.

following on from what madmax2, pressing delete or another such method of removing links, completed or otherwise, should be silent because a default action has been set already so there is no need to have a dialog come up requesting confirmation of an action for each and every link/package.
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Old 14.11.2013, 11:24
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that isnt at all what we are talking about.

that user is asking for an option to set something other than just removing the links from the list.

what this thread is talking about is that the dialog comes up EVEN though a default has been set. simply put, the dialog is annoying and unnecessary.

following on from what madmax2, pressing delete or another such method of removing links, completed or otherwise, should be silent because a default action has been set already so there is no need to have a dialog come up requesting confirmation of an action for each and every link/package.
Yes

the point of this thread is to be able to disable all future confirmation dialog with regards to All DELETE prompts..

It f%$#king annoying....

Previously there was an option to do this in Advance settings, which has since between removed..

I don't want to be bug by this stupid confirmation dialog each time I delete something..
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Old 14.11.2013, 11:26
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It was requested by another user: http://board.jdownloader.org/showthread.php?t=52722
NO!!!! You got it wrong

this is about being able to disable all stupid dialog prompts

please just give us one master option/setting like in advance settings like before
-showdeletelinksdialogoption

We do not want to be bugged by these stupid confirmation dialog boxes
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Old 14.11.2013, 12:03
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I would have said this definitely more friendly, however the main concern isn't too wrong.

My suggestion like in a previous version: a checkbox "use this setting for all further actions - and never ask again" or something like that in advanced settings.

I think 99% of all users would like to remove only link-packages in jD and not any files from hard disk. So, maybe "remove" is a better description than "delete".

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Old 14.11.2013, 17:21
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It already works - sorry guys, had to ask coalado first!
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Old 14.11.2013, 19:41
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While I don't like the dialog box either, I find it a little strange that users are complaining about the confirmation dialog always appearing when deleting links, but when a user deletes a file via M$ Explorer, you get a confirmation dialog there as well, each and every time, with no way to turn it off (AFAIK).

Obviously there is a minor difference, in that these are only links and not files.

I've done the above setting, so the next time a download is completed, we'll see if it works.
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Old 15.11.2013, 00:27
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While I don't like the dialog box either, I find it a little strange that users are complaining about the confirmation dialog always appearing when deleting links, but when a user deletes a file via M$ Explorer, you get a confirmation dialog there as well, each and every time, with no way to turn it off (AFAIK).

Obviously there is a minor difference, in that these are only links and not files.

I've done the above setting, so the next time a download is completed, we'll see if it works.
There's an option to disable the prompt in explorer.
But there is only a need to set it for once.
Also we are deleting actual files, so it important to have a confirmation.

With JD, there is like 5 to 6 delete options...
And each needs to be set.

Also when most ppl delete, they are mainly interested in deleting the links, not the actual files..
To be bugged by these confirmation is annoying!!!!!!!!

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It already works - sorry guys, had to ask coalado first!
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No! This issue is not solved..

We want an advance setting like before..
So it disable all confirmation dialog boxes..

We don't want to checkbox each of those delete submenu
That's more work for us!

then the next update it resets again.

Also some can't be checkbox..
-delete selected links in linkgrabber..

Just bring back an advance setting to disable all dialog prompts

You are not getting the point/problem of this thread!!!!!

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Old 15.11.2013, 06:08
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How is this thread been marked as solved when it clearly hasn't been!

It seems that jdownloader's development could use some more rigorous ITIL type incident\change management processes so that issues, concerns, etc., can't have their reports closed under the resolution of 'oh well, sh*t happens!'.

At very least I would expect an explanation from a dev as to why the global 'disable all delete prompts' option is no longer available or as to their thoughts about how each and every delete option needs to have it's own dialog disabled (and potentially have them default'ed after an update).
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There's an option to disable the prompt in explorer.
But there is only a need to set it for once.
I've never gone looking for that setting as I prefer to be prompted. Didn't even know it existed, even after all of the years. It has saved my a$$ more than once, though I have hit OK even though I shouldn't have.
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What exactly do you want?
Disable all delete links confirm dialogs in linkgrabber and downloadlist?

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Please make a list of all dialogs which you want to be able to disable the confirmation dialogs for.
Also add screenshots.
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Old 15.11.2013, 22:09
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What exactly do you want?
Disable all delete links confirm dialogs in linkgrabber and downloadlist?

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Please make a list of all dialogs which you want to be able to disable the confirmation dialogs for.
Also add screenshots.
Yes, if you have been reading the whole thread properly..
that's all we want.

No need to make a list of all dialogs.

Since the main complaint is the removal of the "disable all delete dialog" in advance settings..
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There's an option to disable the prompt in explorer.
But there is only a need to set it for once.
Also we are deleting actual files, so it important to have a confirmation.

With JD, there is like 5 to 6 delete options...
And each needs to be set.

Also when most ppl delete, they are mainly interested in deleting the links, not the actual files..
To be bugged by these confirmation is annoying!!!!!!!!



No! This issue is not solved..

We want an advance setting like before..
So it disable all confirmation dialog boxes..

We don't want to checkbox each of those delete submenu
That's more work for us!

then the next update it resets again.

Also some can't be checkbox..
-delete selected links in linkgrabber..

Just bring back an advance setting to disable all dialog prompts

You are not getting the point/problem of this thread!!!!!
Yep the difference is that this isn't the convention in how we use our pcs. Explorer is a special case as its entire purpose is to manage files, 3rd party applications generally do not involve deleting files from the drive unless you explicitly go out of your way to do so.

Basically imagine if your mp3 or media player tried to remove your files off your drive when you removed them from a playlist!! That would just freak people out, no amount of "just read more carefully" would solve that because something that destructive shouldn't be an easy option in the first place. Its about user expectations and consistency in interfaces. Please remove this "feature" as default, no files should ever be deleted by the download gui list manager unless you go out of your way to make it that way. Mipony used to have this problem too, I pretty much uninstalled that program once I realized it had wasted a lot of my time when I cleaned up the download list and found out it had gone and deleted my files off my disc, its just bad user interface design.

It shouldn't be advanced to turn it off, advanced option should be to turn on the dialog with options. Default shouldn't prompt the user with something potentially dangerous, and basically force them to double check each time they delete to make sure they don't screw themselves, its an extra bit of stress, sure they can eventually find the advanced to turn it off, but it shouldn't be the default, it should be the other way around.

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It's not that easy. If you want, count how many "The are you sure Dialog is missing" and how many "I hate these Dialogs" reports we have.
They are both existent!


What I did to make everybody happy (I hope so):
  1. The Menu Managers have even more customization options now. Modifiers like ctrl or Shift can be used to bypass the dialog, and to toggle the "Delete Files as well states")
  2. All "Are you sure" Dialogs have been grouped into LOW,NORMAL & SEVERE categories.
  3. New Advanced Option: "Rly Warn Level" to say which warnings you want. Default is NORMAL
  4. In NORMAL State, the Delete Actions in the Downloadview only warn if Files on the harddisk is affected
  5. New Advanced Option: "Bypass All Rly Delete Dialogs Enabled"
  6. New Advanced Option: "Help Dialogs Enabled" to avoid all the "Help Dialogs, that have "do not show again" prefilled


Anything else
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Old 20.11.2013, 21:39
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New Advanced Option: "Help Dialogs Enabled" to avoid all the "Help Dialogs, that have "do not show again" prefilled
The option says only "GraphicalUserInterfaceSettings: Help Dialogs" ON

I'm sorry, but I don't understand - if I enable "Help Dialogs", then I avoid help dialogs with "do not show again" ?

ie. if I want help dialogs with "do not show again" - as it was previously, if I remember well, should I enable or disable this option ?
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It's not that easy. If you want, count how many "The are you sure Dialog is missing" and how many "I hate these Dialogs" reports we have.
They are both existent!


What I did to make everybody happy (I hope so):
  1. The Menu Managers have even more customization options now. Modifiers like ctrl or Shift can be used to bypass the dialog, and to toggle the "Delete Files as well states")
  2. All "Are you sure" Dialogs have been grouped into LOW,NORMAL & SEVERE categories.
  3. New Advanced Option: "Rly Warn Level" to say which warnings you want. Default is NORMAL
  4. In NORMAL State, the Delete Actions in the Downloadview only warn if Files on the harddisk is affected
  5. New Advanced Option: "Bypass All Rly Delete Dialogs Enabled"
  6. New Advanced Option: "Help Dialogs Enabled" to avoid all the "Help Dialogs, that have "do not show again" prefilled


Anything else
Well, it bothered me that it changed the setting I already was used to. Suddenly the "Are you sure" dialog for just deleting the links went missing (I'm one of those pesky people who want it). If you really want to please people, you might want to make new settings honor old ones. Or at least make the advanced setting easier to find; "Rly Warn Level" was not what I expected this setting to be named (before looking at the changelog).
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Old 21.11.2013, 14:26
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It's not that hard, just search delete word

The dev, seems to have fix this issue that can satisfy ppl

-ppl who hate the dialog confirmation box
-ppl who love it.

thanks dev...

now I can turn off all dialogs with one advance setting.
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It's not that hard, just search delete word

The dev, seems to have fix this issue that can satisfy ppl

-ppl who hate the dialog confirmation box
-ppl who love it.

thanks dev...

now I can turn off all dialogs with one advance setting.
searching for delete won't find the new setting I had to undo, it's called "GraphicalUserInterfaceSettings: Rly Warn Level".
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Old 22.11.2013, 08:06
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searching for delete won't find the new setting I had to undo, it's called "GraphicalUserInterfaceSettings: Rly Warn Level".
So search for Rly then..

I do agree, that naming it Rly is bit weird..to use a messaging shorthand..
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Old 22.11.2013, 09:04
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Some thoughts:

The best solution is the grouping of settings - such as "window management" or "bubble notify".

In Advanced Settings good searching words are needed in the option names or values, to help to find the coherent settings.

In this case for example "delete", "warning" , "deleting/warning".

Readability:
For example "GraphicalUserInterfaceSettings" is too long : no need for the "setttings" word, GUI is enough, like Log, Reconnect, BubbleNotify.

Something like "GUI/xxxx" could be useful, there is too many "GraphicalUserInterfaceSettings" .
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