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Old 30.08.2023, 16:08
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hi.
few last days problem: packages stuck at "running" on almost each file.
when open package, last files downloaded 100% have status "starting...".
have few different host packages. they stuck alltogether, when last files are 100%.
to make it unstuck, you need to manually "force download" next file in any stucked package. this also unstuck files in other packages.
because of that also jd don't show "out of quota" status for host that have quota. it only show it after "force download".

30.08.23 17.11.48 <--> 30.08.23 18.54.09 jdlog://4047311370661/
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Old 30.08.2023, 16:48
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I can just see a lot of downloads failing due to "Server error 404".

Please provide example links if this problem is reproducible.
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Old 30.08.2023, 16:56
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Old 31.08.2023, 12:22
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kemono.party:
Looks like they might not like users downloading a lot of files at the same time and thus they may rate-limit connections which can result in slow download-starts.
This is not a bug.
You might want to set "max simultan downloads" and "max chunks" to much lower values to counter this.

pixeldrain.com:
I'm unable to reproduce the problem here.
Pixeldrain.com is serverside limited to max 5 downloads in free mode.
I do see that it takes some time to connect when e.g. 4 downloads are running and the fifth is about to start but I do not see any JD bug here either.
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Old 31.08.2023, 13:31
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max chunk per download: 1
max sim. downloads per hoster: 2
max simultan downloads was always 3 but when it started i was trying to change it but this no affect at all. now i set 5, as i understand if i download from two hosts i have 2*2=4 simultan downloads anyway.

and as i understand if host is limiting on its side, i can't override it just by pressing "force download". i'm not like a god or something. but i can. and jd have out of quota status for pixeldrain. and i was banned by ip on kemono once, because accidentally force download way too many files at once. this also has a different understandable status, not this kind of a bug.

and I think it's highly doubtful that three (+mega) different hosts started limiting me in the same weird way at the same time.

ok thank you. if you'll come up with something else to diagnose, please tell me

Last edited by shinji2009; 31.08.2023 at 14:05. Reason: add doubts
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Old 31.08.2023, 14:31
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and as i understand if host is limiting on its side, i can't override it just by pressing "force download". i'm not like a god or something. but i can.
It's not so easy.
There is different kind of limits.

Let's talk about them:
1. Plugin limits:
Plugin limits can either be hardcoded in a plugin or obtained dynamically via API of a website.
In most cases, they are hardcoded in a plugin according to tests done by the developer and/or limits proposed by the website admin:
pixeldrain.com [free]:
max simultan downloads: 5
max chunks: 1

kemono.party:
Kemono.party items are handled by our generic plugin for direct-lnks.
Thus global limits apply:
max simultan downloads: unlimited [20]
max chunks: unlimited [20]
--> If a website has "no limits", you can sometimes override the global limit of 20 simultaneous downloads by forcing downloads. Else not [= force download will then only set a higher priority on files to make them start next].

Plugin limits can be different for the same website depending on the used account type such as "no account", "free account" or "premium account" (or more).

2. Website limits:
Those limits are not necessary known to JDownloader.
In the case of kemono.party, none are set so if you try to start 10 items at the same time but kemono.party is limiting in the form of "not answering for one second after each connection was opened", this may result in some downloads in JD "freezing" for some time with status "Connecting" or "Starting".
JD cannot know such limits in beforehand but we can optimize JD for single websites upon user-feedback.

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ok thank you. if you'll come up with something else to diagnose, please tell me
I wouldn't know what.
You will most likely run into similar problems when using another download-tools.
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Old 31.08.2023, 14:37
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this may result in some downloads in JD "freezing" for some time with status "Connecting" or "Starting".
"starting" on a 100% finished (and crc checked for some hosts) file is ok?
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Old 31.08.2023, 14:56
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"starting" on a 100% finished (and crc checked for some hosts) file is ok?
No.

I haven't been able to reproduce this issue.
Please provide further logs or instructions on how this can be reproduced in a reliable way.
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Old 31.08.2023, 15:47
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i am wondering if it is because i have way too many finished links in download tab and jd taking over my ssd and ram when making downloadListNNNN.zip backups every second? and when jd make backup, it freezes somehow internally and make this weird "starting" thing. maybe there is a way to chill it a bit and make backup interval once a 10 minutes or so?
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Old 31.08.2023, 16:08
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The "starting" is not related to writing the downloadlistXXX.zip files.

About JD writing that file "too frequently":
See other related threads:
https://board.jdownloader.org/showthread.php?t=72045
--> You can configure JD to write this file in a bigger interval.
Read especially this post:
https://board.jdownloader.org/showpo...7&postcount=15
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Old 31.08.2023, 16:58
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thank you. this not solved the issue but at least my laptop is much more responsive now)

when files are stuck at "starting..." i can also unstuck them by just opening popup dialog where theese options like "max sim downloads per hoster" are.

if i uncheck "max sim downloads per hoster" this bug is eliminated. but this is useful option, i'd like to use it.

i also check jd on another pc and there is no issue there, so it is not some kind of internet related problem.
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Old 01.09.2023, 10:56
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I still can't reproduce this.
Please post a screenshot of Help -> About JDownloader

If we can't solve this within the next few replies here, I'd like to invitie you to do a Teamviewer session with me.
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Old 01.09.2023, 12:57
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yes i undestand. i can wait a couple of months to this thing to fix itself. now i have 2 files downloading at a time and this is much better than 0 files downloading. maybe will be a jd update that will overwrite some glitchy file. windows update sometimes broke something and then ms fix it after some time.

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Old 01.09.2023, 13:06
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yes i undestand. i can wait a couple of months to this thing to fix itself.
This is not what I said.

Please contact us again via support@jdownloader.org so we can take a look at this in a Teamviewer session as we're not making any progress here via text based support at this moment.
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Old 04.09.2023, 11:22
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to reproduce the problem you need to add to download list a package of 37000 files in it.
just checked on another pc and it also there even with this only package in download list.
after package finished the issue is eliminated.
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Old 04.09.2023, 13:02
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I don't have this many packages for testing now.
It would be easier if you could send your latest downloadlistXXX.zip to us via support@jdownloader.org.
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That's true James
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Originally Posted by James
Die Leute verstehen einfach nicht dass nur weil man mit einer Waffe auch auf Menschen schießen kann dass ein Schützenver​ein kein Ort für Amoklaufide​en ist


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Old 04.09.2023, 13:06
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you could use a link i faced this issue
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to grab all files you need a Packagizer rule from this post, but don't specify filemane in the rule so rule become universal for all files.
https://board.jdownloader.org/showpo...18&postcount=8
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Old 04.09.2023, 16:15
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Please first wait for the next update and then test if you can reproduce the problem with links added after the update, see:
https://board.jdownloader.org/showpo...3&postcount=68
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That's true James
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Die Leute verstehen einfach nicht dass nur weil man mit einer Waffe auch auf Menschen schießen kann dass ein Schützenver​ein kein Ort für Amoklaufide​en ist

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Old 04.09.2023, 20:09
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48254 bug is still present.
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Old 05.09.2023, 12:14
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I can't see anything helpful in your logs.
Please contact us again via support@jdownloader.org and be ready for a Teamviewer session.
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