[Sac John]

I've learned how to use JD2 with Zevera successfully. I also learned how to set the account manager "rules" so that Zevera-supported hosts like Uploaded and Rapidgator don't revert to free mode captchas. They now attempt to connect only via Zevera.

Only problem is that, when I wake up in the morning after letting JD2 run for eight hours, I see that about half of my links did finally connect via Zevera and successfully completed ... but the other half triggered final messages such as "host offline" or "restart this link". Then, if I manually restart the link, it will often connect just fine - which tells me that there was no reason for the link to dead-end with a fatal message. Those weaker links just needed to try reconnecting repeatedly for another few hours to eventually work.

So how do I get JD2 to *keep trying* to connect ALL links, including these weaker links, that, for some reason, need several hours of more connection attempts before successfully connecting and completing?

I want Zevera to never dead-end and keep trying until it eventually does connect. How do I do that?

[pspzockerscene]

Hi
You cannot setup JD to "keep trying" - have you ever considered switching to a more stable multihost?
Well anyways - usually JD should retry.
Please post a log and a screenshot of the "try restarting" errors.

GreeZ pspzockerscene

[Sac John]

Well, I paid for a two-year subscription to Zevera, and it still has six months on it. I would definitely consider a better multi-host, although I have not read anything that has shown me that there is one on the market that is known to be the best. Every time I see the topic come up, there seems to be some debate on which is best.

I'm stuck with Zevera for another six months, then I will certainly take your suggestion.

I won't be able to post any screenshots of the "try restarting this link" message until it happens again. During the day, I'm here to manually reset and restart dead-end links so they are all running smoothly right this minute. If I have some tomorrow morning, which I almost always do, I can post the screenshot.


Is there a multi-host that you believe is mostly bullet-proof and significantly most stable then Zevera, not just a minor improvement? Like, nearly perfect?

[pspzockerscene]

Well I can tell you some that I tested and that work relatively stable.
I think zevera/real-debrid (never buy real-debrid either!) is only interesting for you if you really need 100+ hosts.
For me, any of these would do fine:
offcloud.com
simply-debrid.com
premiumize.me
free-way.me
over-load.me
linksnappy.com
filenium.com
premium.to

There are so many - simply think about which filehosts you really need and then think about the prize - a very small prize doesn't necessarily mean that they got a good service

Some of the above (and also others) can be tested without paying.
A list of nearly all existing multihosts can be found here:
birnchen.dyndns.info/index.php?s=list_Multi_Hoster

GreeZ psp

[Sac John]

Thanks for the list of multi-hosts. I'm sure I can just search each one for which carries my most-used hosts and go with it.

Here is a screenshot of the error message per your request. I also get one or two other dead-end messages, but I don't remember what they are right this minute.

It's unfortunate that all I have to do is reset any of these links and then force download start and they will usually then startup fine ... but I can't automate Zevera to do that.

[pspzockerscene]

I need a log which contains these errors - they should not happen!

GreeZ psp

[Sac John]

Thanks PSP. I hate to be an idiot, but I don't know how to create a log nor how to deliver it to you.

Also, does the log need to be created immediately after the error occurs? I've already reset those links and I probably won't see any more until a full night of downloading. But yes, I do see several usually every morning - sometimes quite a few of them.


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Edit: Oops, just noticed the log tutorial in your signature. Perhaps you can still answer the second question?

[pspzockerscene]

When you create the log, JD will show you the timeframe.
As long as the error occured in that, all is fine

GreeZ psp

[Sac John]

Is this the log info you are looking for? The "restart this link" message appeared in the last hour just before I created this.

13.01.15 02.16.17to13.01.15 22.56.52 jdlog://0056883568141/

[pspzockerscene]

Please post a new log - I can't open this particular one!

GreeZ psp

[Sac John]

13.01.15 02.16.17to14.01.15 01.45.44 jdlog://0857883568141/

[pspzockerscene]

Try again after the next update!

GreeZ psp

[Sac John]

msg deleted

[Sac John]

No download ability at all. I've tried restarting several times, disabled and enabled, etc. Nothing working.

New log:

14.01.15 12.57.05to14.01.15 12.57.42 jdlog://6987883568141/

[pspzockerscene]

Try via browser - seems to be a host-side problem and no JD issue!
As said, zevera is a very very unreliable service!

GreeZ psp

[Sac John]

You are most likely correct. I don't think now that it's a Zevera issue. Among Zevera's many problems, one that I run into from time to time is that there is an undisclosed data limit and if I download too much in one day, I am locked out of all Zevera hosters for 24 hours. It's been a long while since I triggered that lock-out, so I didn't remember it when I posted an hour ago.

So I will wait until I can DL again and then I'll let you know if I am still getting the "restart this link" message.

Thanks for your help.

[pspzockerscene]

As said - simply try it via browser and you'll see the exact cause of the failing downloads (well, eventually).
I'd say it's no JD issue - this is what you get when you buy zevera but I guess many people did as they did lots of advertising...

GreeZ psp
EDIT

If you want I can send you some free-way.me (german MOCH service) traffic and you can test it - absolutely free, no subscription or whatsoever!

[Sac John]

Hello psp,

I'm back to downloading as usual, but I'm still getting the "try restarting this link - plugin outdated" error message frequently. I'm usually able to bypass it by just resetting the link several times. Eventually I am able to start downloading again. I am trying to send you a log, but the log function only gives me a time slot that is already two or three hours old - and I just got a number of error messages in the last half-hour. If I can get the log function current (by trying again in a few minutes) I'll send you a fresh log. But the latest update you suggested I try didn't change anything. I do appreciate you trying.

Is it possible for the "try restarting this link" message to not be a dead-end? I would not mind if I got that message and then JD2 automatically restarted the link a minute later, as it does with other breaks in the download.

[pspzockerscene]

Hi
Please just keep posting logs - I want to know what causes it.
In the end, yes, I'll remove those messages" completely!

GreeZ psp

[Sac John]

Only two "restart" messages this morning, after a whole night of downloading. It seems like something has improved because I saw many more than that on previous days.

Log:

14.01.15 14.42.14to15.01.15 08.32.44 jdlog://0769883568141/

[pspzockerscene]

Hm wasn't able to find out what caused them...

GreeZ psp

[Sac John]

I'm completely unable to download tonight. Getting the dreaded "restart" message all over the place.

16.01.15 00.07.28to16.01.15 00.30.16 jdlog://4870983568141/

[pspzockerscene]

Sorry, my mistake.
Try again after the next update - the out of date errors might disappear but the downloads still won't start, it's again, their unstable system!

GreeZ pspzockerscene

[Sac John]

Hi PSP. Here is an update. I have not been able to download for two straight nights. The latest problem is that JD2's LinkGrabber/Clipboard Observer does not recognize the Zevera links. All that shows up on the LinkGrabber page is the vague no-URL "get files".

I'm pretty sure it's not Zevera's fault this time because I've been using iGetter the last two nights and it goes right to work downloading. (Of course, iGetter has no reconnect when a file disconnects, so it requires constant re-listing of the links and starting over.)

Anyway, sorry to report that the LinkGrabber on JD2 isn't working with my Zevera links. I have no way of loading in Zevera links.

[pspzockerscene]

Hi
You're not supposed to add zevera links to JD.
Though zevera links SHOULD be supported and work fine, I'm not sure but anyways - why do you even add zevera links?
Simply add the normal host links e.g. uploaded.net/file/xxx and download - JD will automatically convert them to zevera links!

And again: If the download does NOT work via browser via zevera there is no way that it works via JD.
Have you contacted their support?

GreeZ psp

[Sac John]

Darn. How did I forget that? I *know* I'm not supposed to add Zevera links to JD2. I don't know why suddenly I started adding Zevera links and then was surprised when Zevera didn't recognize them. I'll try again today adding the links properly. I assume JD2 will work fine.

[Sac John]

Yes, everything is downloading properly right now. Thank you for all the help so far. I don't have very many links loaded right now, so I don't know if I'll see the "reset" message today ... but I will assume everything is working properly.

It took about five minutes to download the JD2 updates today, so I know you did something significant.

;)

[pspzockerscene]

No we actually didn't make a lot of changes

GreeZ psp

[Sac John]

Hi PSP,

Okay ... latest update on daily heavy use of JD2. Last night I loaded a bunch of links, many of them four identical titles from four different hosts at a time - so the odds are at least one would give me the RAR I was looking for.

This morning I woke up and some of them had worked, but instead of the usual "reset" message, I now saw dozens of "skipped - account is missing" messages.

I have every reason to believe that is Zevera's fault ... it's not uncommon for Rapidgator, Uploaded, Uploadable, and Turbobit to all be offline at the same time ... but shouldn't JD2 keep trying in anticipation of when one of those hosts might be Zevera-active again?

I can't tell if JD2 tried several times or if it gave up after one try, but all I know is that this morning I saw "skipped - account is missing" next to probably 80% of the links I entered.

This morning, I manually reset them and most of them are working. So it's a different message, but basically the same outcome for me as the reset message. I still have to manually keep trying once JD2 gives up on a Zevera link.


Log:

20.01.15 10.06.07to21.01.15 09.00.53 jdlog://9652093568141/

[pspzockerscene]

Hi
The displayed errormessages and all the errorhandling is not yet 100% perfect but will be improved.
Anyways - JD probably tried a lot of times yesterday and eventually gave up.
JD is not made to do endless tries - imagine thousands of users doing this all the time --> It's just like a DDOS attack.

And again:
Simply make account usage rules for your used hosts and diable free (unregistered) mode completely to prevent JD from switching to free mode - JD will then keep trying and never switch to the free mode.
"Account missing" only shows up if you try to download a link as free user which is only downloadable by premium users --> If you have a premium account, this message simply means that JD (for whatever reason) switched to free mode.

In the future we might have information for every link which shows some kinda "history" of:
-How myn times JD tried
-Which accounts JD tried
-Why it failed
...but I don't promise anything - this is just a big MAYBE!

GreeZ pspzockerscene

[Sac John]

Thanks for all the help, PSP. I'm really not too worried about it. I'm okay with resetting my links manually. I'm just giving you as much feedback as possible because I believe you want to make JD2 as perfect as possible.

Regarding your comment, "Account missing only shows up if you try to download a link as free user...", I don't think that is completely correct. I have the usage rules set up properly for all four of the hosts I am using (through Zevera) and they are all enabled. The 'account missing' message showed up anyway on most of my downloads last night, even though JD2 has no way to revert to free mode.

Just letting you know.

Also, I did notice the 'account missing' message showing up immediately on hosts that I already knew were not Zevera-active at the moment. (Turbobit is almost never active.) I did not see JD2 try to reconnect. It seems it gave up on one try. It might have tried later when I didn't see it, but it does appear to be giving up after one try from what I can see when Zevera is not using a specific host.

Again ... still ... JD is a superior program and much better than iGetter. With iGetter, if a link doesn't connect immediately and then download all the way to completion, the program often just deletes the link! So for that one feature, the ability to keep links in the lineup and even manually reset them, JD2 is wildly superior and a benefit to me.

Thanks.

[pspzockerscene]

Oh sorry - Account missing will of course also show up if JD has no more download candidates (= tried all possible ways and none is left).
As said, if the zevera site says "host now active at the moment" (or similar), JD of course believes that andstops after onetry which is correct.

Thanks for your feedback.
iGetter and other programms work totally different - JD is made to automate the complete process from recongnizing normal file-host links, converting them into final (multihost) downloadlinks and downloading them while iGetter or similar can simply download direct links - that is a huge difference.
That said, with e.g. iGetter there is no way to automate downloads like this as you always have to convert the links manually first.

GreeZ psp

[Sac John]

"As said, if the zevera site says "host now active at the moment" (or similar), JD of course believes that andstops after one try which is correct."

That does make it difficult for Zevera users, mainly because Zevera is very unstable and a LOT of the time, it says that a host is now active when in fact it is not. Right this minute, Uploaded is active and I am downloading one or two files on JD2 using Zevera/Uploaded. But I have twenty or thirty more Uploaded links up that go straight to "skipped - account is missing" because JD2, like you said, believes UL is active when it isn't. I'm having to manually reset every ten minutes or so to try again.

If JD2 would try even, for example, once every ten minutes - that would be helpful, especially when I'm asleep for eight hours and can't manually reload. That would also get around the problem of too many hits being like a DDOS attack.

It would just be super to wake up to more completed downloads instead of finding out JD2 gave up on a link 30 minutes after I went to sleep ... and it would have downloaded perfectly ten minutes later if I was awake to manually reset and force start again.

But again, I'm still very happy with JD2. I know perfection is coming. And even now, it's already a very good program.

[pspzockerscene]

Originally Posted by Sac John

because JD2, like you said, believes UL is active when it isn't. I'm having to manually reset every ten minutes or so to try again.
.

No I said ..."thinks it's INactive".
Anyways - without test account and testlinks I cannot check this.
JD should only completely disable hosts for a long time if according to the API of a multihost, they're unavailable for a longer time.

GreeZ pspzockerscene

[Sac John]

Hello PSP,

I've been doing some heavy downloading the last couple of days. Right now, most of my links are through Depfile, which is a less common Zevera-supported host. It stops the download every ten or twenty minutes or so and needs to be reset - very unstable host. So I'm getting the 'skipped - account is missing' message very often now. I know the 'skipped' message does eventually try again, but it is not very often. I noticed this morning that for some random reason, sometimes instead of the 'skipped' message, I get a "temporarily unavailable' message. This is much better because when the 'temporarily unavailable' message comes up, it automatically sets up a timer to try again in ten minutes. After ten minutes, if the file still isn't up, it's starts the ten minute timer again. This is exactly what I've been looking for.

It might be a lot to ask for, but is it possible to get rid of the (almost) dead-end "skipped - account is missing" message and replace it 100% of the time with "temporarily unavailable"? That ten minute timer should be enough to answer your concern about too many hits being like a DDOS attack. One hit every ten minutes shouldn't create a problem - and it would give me the opportunity to keep trying my file every ten minutes all night long while I sleep.

The fact is that the "account is missing" message is just wrong most of the time when it comes to Zevera. The account is not missing, it's just temporarily down. It would be so helpful to see the "temporarily unavailable" message with the ten minute timer whenever Zevera won't let me in.

is that something you can do?

[pspzockerscene]

No not possible - needs more work on the controlling which unfortunately still takes time..

GreeZ psp

[tony2long]

@Sac John
The errors that you got are not always the same, some errors can be handled by plugin, some can't.

Actually the plugin has a retry of 20 times with 1 hour wait, for "unknown error", that should be enough if you get this error.

Please upload new log if you still get errors.

[Sac John]

Thanks, Tony2Long.

I'm really not that worried about error messages. They are infrequent enough that I don't mind manually resetting them when I see one.

Right now, the biggest hassle is the "skipped - account is missing" message. This is common with Zevera because Zevera only has access to some hosts for a few hours a day. The chance is always high that, at any time, yes an "account" will be "missing" - but that it will probably come back on in two or three hours again.

It's a shame that JD2 won't keep trying after getting a "skipped - account is missing" error. If JD2 would check THAT once every hour for 20 tries, then eventually all my links would get handled.

But, if "skipped - account is missing" is a dead-end, then I need to manually reset and restart the link every few hours myself, which is a drag, especially during the night when JD2 would have a bunch of hours to download.

[tony2long]

Obviously we see this from different angle.

The "skipped - account is missing" is the end result, after an error message that maybe can only be seen in the log. If you post a new log (code has been changed) maybe we can see the problem and prevent it.

About the "skipped - account is missing" itself, see psp's post.

[pspzockerscene]

@tony2long
That's how it is but indeed we cannot expect users to understand that.
raztoki already wrote a lot with jiaz on how to change this.
Our problem is that the user won't easily see:
-How many download attempts were made
-Which accounts were tried to use
-When that happened
-When/why JD finally switched to free

So we'd need to have some ability so users can see that.
Also it would be good to make sure that whenever the user uses a working premium account, jd should not switch to free by default.

There is a lot to consider - especially since multihosters exist!

GreeZ psp