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@danccm
It's simple. We regexed the JS and replaced ( |\\+|\\') by "" (=remove them). They just added extra JS. I won't play their game. It's up to depositfiles to chase their own users away and minimize their income by doing that;) GreeZ pspzockerscene
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Really glad you figured out the source of the problem. Maybe complainign to DF will get them to stop their game-playing.
From what you wrote, does this mean the JD won't be issuing an update for this? |
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At least i won't fix it anymore because by doing this we even support their game and we do what they want.
Depositfiles should see their costumers running away from them, then they might stop this game... GreeZ pspzockerscene
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at least they should rethink their strategy and provide an api for their premium customers. at the moment they block free/premium(?).
for free users they should also rethink it but i guess they need to see a decreases in customers numbers first. we will try to keep it working (by adding js support) but that might take some time. if you want jd support, you can contact their support
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The first answer from DF:
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I try it again in english - everyone should do that! |
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happen with depositfiles.com and I can't download those files How can i solve ? Best Regards |
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Merged depositfiles threads!
GreeZ pspzockerscene
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Rather than trying to parse Depositfile's Javascript with regex, have you considered using an actual Javascript parser? For example, Rhino is an open source Javascript parser written in Java which you could use. And it's made by Mozilla so it likely is just as functional as the Javascript parser used in Firefox. Using this you could always extract the link. For Depositfiles to break functionality with JDownloaer if it used this they'd essentially also have to break functionality for all Firefox users (which they would never do).
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That remark has been made several times in the past, but it seems either to be too difficult or take too much time to integrate JS into jD yet.
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Well I guess they are really going to lose a lot of customers in this way. Not many people are going to accept solely downloading through the website, only those that occasionally need a file that happens to be on DF will do that.
People that are regularly downloading stuff from hosters such as DF, are usually going to use some download manager that is capable of downloading from all of them - which is what JD is. Also, people who may not yet have an account but still download a lot of stuff (me, for instance) will normally consider buying an account if they turn out to be regularly downloading stuff from specific hosters. These people will most probably be totally turned off by these actions - which will probably mean an almost instant drop in customers once their accounts run out. There are tons of other options to choose from and it is (1) the availability of content and (2) the I-like-you factor that keeps people at one or the other. Depositfiles is going to feel this, and other hosters that are more sympathetic to their customers like primarily Filesonic, will only benefit from that. Once you're out of the game in this business, it's a vicious circle going down and down. So I guess this is the revenge we're going to have. I for sure will try to finish my download queue by hand (hell it's there, why not get it) - but I'll never turn back. I think I won't be the only one. And DF, if you're reading this (which is probable): think about it, get a good night's sleep - and maybe you will start treating (prospective) customers the way you need to. If not, go visit some "how to properly do business in the 21st century" class, maybe it will freshen up your mind. Last edited by Bugi; 01.02.2011 at 13:23. |
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I think jD is important but not that important that all file hosts listen to the jD Team's advice.
DF is an old host - they actually were among the first OCHs - and they've never grown like some other hosts did. Since I'm monitoring their importance, DF has always been around position 200 in Alexa's traffic ranking. Since the beginning of 2010 they're continually losing traffic. Years ago I downloaded a lot from them, but in the last couple of years I haven't seen many links. Last edited by remi; 01.02.2011 at 14:30. Reason: typo |
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@all
Our developer ".bismarck" always fixed the plugin but he just told me that they keep changing... This thread is now international and a sticky... GreeZ pspzockerscene
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That's a LIE, their change was DIRECTLY against JDownloader, they were even so dumb and put the text "STOPJD" in their HTML source code...
If they want to lose their costumers they should continue this, if not they should stop it immediately! GreeZ pspzockerscene
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I'm curious: has anyone from the JD dev team ever officialy contacted depositfiles?
Mayhaps, they'd be forthcoming if you hear them out, perhaps giving their gold accounts acces, at the very least. |
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Try to download, it should work right now.
I'm quite sure that coalado did already contact DF but still...it was their decision to lose users by changing the site against us. Whatever, at the moment we don't have any news about this topic. GreeZ pspzockerscene
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It hasn't worked for me in days, and still doesn't work.
Although, I am curious, what exactly does forcing users to download through a browser do for DF? Is it simply a matter of reducing bandwidth? As it's been already pointed out in this thread, such a policy will eventually bite them in the ass. Uploaders want to use the hosts that will give them the most downloads. |
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But what is in for them except chasing away their paying customers? It takes the same bandwidth and data volume, regardless of the downloading program being a browser or a tool like jD.
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Right at this moment I'm downloading one of their files in my browser, because I couldn't find a mirror. The download is extremely slow and will probably take more than 2 hours for 200 MB. This shows that their servers are having serious difficulties.
I think they just prioritise their premium customers atm. Automated download tools with download queues like jD tend do download more than browsers where most of the work is manual. You're right that if they sustain this strategy, it will kill them at the long term. My conclusion is that this can only be temporary until they can find the money to upgrade their infrastructure and/or reduce their operating costs. |
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depositfiles servers is slowest what i try in a few years, i never liked this host. i found the way how to download, but they trying to break that way. that way is download files in JD, better than waiting a long time when i can download another one file, in JD it starts automatic, it's really easy.
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Yes, that is what they are doing. The question was, why are they doing that? |
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@mark909
HERE is an answer of their support which is pretty much NOT serious because their change was exactly there to block JD but that's not the answer you get from their support Go ahead, ask their support... GreeZ pspzockerscene
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Has the depositfiles plugin died for the latest nightly?
Moved to the Hoster-Plugins forum, DepositFiles thread.
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@ maximumfap,
Always search before posting. The stable and nightly plugins are almost the same and we use the same thread for them. Read the Hoster-Plugins rules (see my sig.) for how to properly report a plugin problem.
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Thanks for the response guys, patience is a virtue :(
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I haven't run JD in a couple of days, and I just did a fresh install, which I don't think has anything to do with it.
Anyway, JD was downloading DF the last time I checked, albeit very slowly. It often seemed to work only on the first download upon start-up then stop. Now, I notice that it hangs trying to add DF via linkgrabber. Has anyone else noticed this? |
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No, I haven't noticed that. The DF plug-in is out of date.
You can always help by providing some example links and a complete and detailed log. |
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I know the DF plug-in is out of date, however this seems to be a recent change, which is why I'm asking if anyone else has noticed the same thing. |
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Mark,
Please read the Hoster-Plugins rules and supply the requested information. Among other things we need YOU to supply three links that work in a browser, but not in JD. We also need you to upload a log that shows JD trying to use those links. Often, problems occur on your computer, but not mine. That means that I cannot report it as a problem. Supplying links and a log provides information to report it or to help you. You might be suffering from software that is filtering data from DF.
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I know you are trying to be helpful, but frankly, I find these sort of conversations silly, as it has nothing to with my question. Unless you can explain how my posting links and uploading a log can tell me whether other people were having the same issue, because that's all I asked.
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depositfiles is blocking jdownloader. unless we find a friendly solutino for both sides it will be a cat and mice game
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The linkgrabber problem I was having was only temporary (with no changes on my end). Free downloading was working, but was extremely slow. Premium now seems to be working OK. So it seems that they are no longer deliberately trying to block JD. Since there haven't been any JD updates during this time, I can only conclude that DF is the one who made changes. So maybe they have stopped their cat and mouse game? |
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depositfiles.com plugin error (out of date)
**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff** **External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff** **External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff** http://jdownloader.org/pastebin/28856 |
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depositfiles.com plugin error (out of date) from last 2 days for free users. plz update it. Premium user also downloading little slow than usual.
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complain at premium support that they should stop blocking jD or you will delete your account. If enough people complain, it may help. If it isnt jDs fault and their servers are just slow, also: complain at DF-support, we cant help.
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It's just like "hat_ne_frage" says.
They block us, we can't change that, it's their decision to lose users/costumers... GreeZ pspzockerscene
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Deposit File Plugin error
Hi,
The plugin appears to be out of date. Thanks for doing what you can to fix this bug. here's the log: http://jdownloader.org/pastebin/28942 And here's the link: **External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff** Thanks. |
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I like Jdownloader and the job that you guys make, but what is the point to say "we can't do a thing", and make a fix a few hours after ? |
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