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Old 27.03.2015, 10:45
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Hi,
Having a lot of links from NitroFlare, only seldom do they display the correct captcha. When they do, JD is usually able to solve it automatically. Yet most of the time, the displayed captcha is from a different type than the one challenged via a web browser (specifically - chrome).

For example, the following link:
**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**
shows in JD a captcha of this kind:
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And in Chrome of this kind:
Captcha-browser.png

BTW, a similar issue has been reported before, but has been closed (without a fix?) because it's not related to JD. (??)
https://board.jdownloader.org/showthread.php?t=58191

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Old 27.03.2015, 10:57
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as discussed on the forum in other threads, they use javascript hackery to give easier recaptcha images in browser.
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Old 27.03.2015, 15:37
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They use complex js stuff to detect "good guy browser" user from "good tool/bad hacking tool) user. We do not have time to "hack" their system and if we or any one other would start/publish a way it will become cat and mouse game and google will always win
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Old 27.03.2015, 16:10
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* Sometimes it helps to change the IP address but thats all at the moment!
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Old 27.03.2015, 18:16
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Default Nitroflare captchas unrecognisable even by humans

Dear Sirs,
since yesterday the nitroflare captchas have become hard to decipher even by humans. I strongly suspect that the things are related to JD2 because on the nitroflare web site captchas are still much more recognisable.
If I am not wrong, that had been occurring many months ago, but it had fixed readily some time later. Any explanation for this odd phenomenon?
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Old 27.03.2015, 19:16
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There is not much we can do about it - everything is explained here:
https://board.jdownloader.org/showth...ight=reCaptcha
Short answer: The captchas come from google: Ask them to change them or ask nitroflare to use another captcha type instead of the current reCaptcha.

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Old 27.03.2015, 20:38
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that is sad to read... anyway, thanks for JD/JD2 support!
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Old 30.03.2015, 18:55
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Estoy descargando enlaces de nitroflare, que en la web presentan unos captchas muy sencillos (números muy legibles) pero que si los añado a JD me presentan unos captchas diabólicos de dos palabras super enmascaradas casi imposibles de leer, y ademas me los reinicia durante ciclos de 1 minuto, un montón de veces antes de empezar a descargar, y a veces sin conseguirlo. A alguién más le pasa? se puede resolver? Gracias
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https://board.jdownloader.org/showthread.php?t=44803
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¿Necesitas alguna traducción? - Por si acaso no hay algo claro, por supuesto.

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Thank you, Muchas gracias Lram32, pspszockerscene, y disculpad por haber planteado la pregunta. Veo que ya estaba respondida en las captcha faq.

Se trata del punto 5, referido a las recaptcha de Google. Miraré lo que dice sobre el proxy/VPN pero creo que no es el caso, aunque en mi red sí que tenemos una configuración rara con un ruter sirviendo a otro router. Lo miraré a ver.

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Old 10.04.2015, 02:12
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Not sure if this is the right place but the title looks right, although unfortunately I only read english.

Ok the problem is or may be another captcha related issue though that seems to be associated with jdownloader 2 at least ....

What I have found over the past four days is that for any file from nitroflare.com is not able to download for free users without a whole lot of trouble ....

The captcha that pops up through jdownloader is a terrible black and white with characters that one can barely read at all, similar to but, worse most of the time and even when one can read them, the captcha input is never taken properly.

The captcha's from their web site are totally different also and readable and do take with out any problem for free users. these are similar to this and this http://i.imgur.com/W2WprUp.png

Yes I also read the Captcha FAQ - English pointed to earlier in this post and yes i understand why some are this way or that way but, considering the differences between what is being seen in JDownloader versus their web site, to me it seems there is an issue with JD grabbing the wrong captcha or translating the captcha wrong some how from their web site.

Below are 11 links for your pleasure to test with.
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**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**
**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**
**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**
**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**
**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**
**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**
**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**
**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**
**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**
**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**
**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**

IF a mod wishes to move this to a better place or new topic then please do so.

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As I can't see to just select and copy and paste from the about window for jdownloader 2 let me know if you need any source revision #'s.
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Old 10.04.2015, 17:15
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Have you actually read the captcha FAQ??
https://board.jdownloader.org/showthread.php?t=44803
Here is a quote of myself:
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Google has complex algorithms to differ between humans and bots and unfortunately even for us it is hard to break them so Google will often recognize JDownloader as a bot (which is correct) thus sending harder-to-solve captchas than via browser.
Google does allow other applications to display their captchas but treats them as BOTs.
That is all.
Now you can still say it is a JD issue but it is NOT!
Ask google to make easier bot-captchas or ask nitroflare to change their captcha type!

It is NOT our fault!
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Old 19.04.2015, 21:42
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Default NitroFlare Captcha Differences not solved yet!

Sorry, looking at some of the other topics discussing similar as far as I can tell, this is not solved yet.

As of a few minutes ago I am still getting different Captcha styles between Jdownloader2 and the web site!

When using Jdownloader2, I get this type of captcha totally either unreadable or wrong type than used from their web site apparently even when typed in properly!
Notice the same File name too!

Some Nitroflare links that I have this problem with:
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**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**

**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**
**External links are only visible to Support Staff****External links are only visible to Support Staff**


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..because this issue is NOT a JD issue!
See our captcha FAQ point 5:
https://board.jdownloader.org/showthread.php?t=44803
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Old 19.04.2015, 21:52
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I have already read this and I understand this so that is not the issue the issue si that between Jdownloader and the Web site the captchas are not being selected properly within jdownloader for some weird reason.

This to me is an issue with jdownloader not selecting the correct one being used by the site itself, not with the actual captchas.

I have no problem with jdownloader not matching captchas from any other site but nitroflare!

I do belive this is a JD issue decrypting their site properly in selecting the proper captcha, not an actual captcha issue
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No you simply have no idea how it works.
Google often detects us as a bot thus sending harder captchas - thats all!
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Old 20.04.2015, 10:19
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we are working on this, so jd will get "easier" captchas as well
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Yes but basically what we stated in the captcha FAQs is still true and can still happen - at least in general, for the future.
For now just wait and *hope* that it will get better soon at least for some time
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Old 22.04.2015, 05:41
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This is just one example. Same thing is true on many other sites. In JD you have to try over and over and sometimes it makes you wait several minutes between tries. All you can do is just keep guessing at some of the letters.

Here is what a safelinking capacha looks like in a browser:


And this is what the same link looks like in JD:

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you are comparing apples and oranges

first screen shot is solve media
second is recaptcha (v1)

safelinking randomise captchas based on loads.

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I should also add, that recaptchav1 and recaptchav2 bais image shown in browser via javascript. Our implementation for v1 is really old before they started this biasing. We have a new solution which has been rolled out for recaptchav2, captcha opens in browser tab. You should receive the biased image (should be easier to solve).

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As I said this is only one example of the same thing from many other hosts and not just safelinking. I could post screenshots from many other sites of the same thing but that would be pointless. If I am comparing apples and oranges, how do I get the easy to read apples in JD instead of blurred jumbled together oranges? Some hosts like Rapidgator show up the same in JD as a browser but others are just like the safelinking examples. Do your plugins for some hosts just not support capachas the same way as Rapidgator does?
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solvemedia (they still punish based on ip and site globally * correct|incorrect|loads) doesn't seem to have any bias by javascript, its only googles recaptcha that does.
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Old 27.04.2015, 02:58
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Hi,
I just updated JD2. And now, when I launch a uploaded.net / uploaded.to download, I have these popup ! I use 9KW captcha solver, and with this, IMPOSSIBLE to pass captcha...


On an other machine, update was not made, and downloads works perfectly with 9kw captcha resolutions... So what is this feature / update ? I don't want this, it blocks download with captcha...
When I try to disable it (here) :

download doesn't want to start, can't send his captcha to 9kw or other and stay on "starting" !!! :


Why is there this f****** problem ?

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maybe coalado made a mistake committing that last night, I'll revert his changes so old captcha solver will work. We do have a way to pass into CES from the new solver but its not quite ready yet, but it does have some restrictions/issues.
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It's OK !
I updated JD and now it work perfectly

Big thank for your work
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Old 29.04.2015, 16:29
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Hallo zusammen
Ich habe heute ein Update des JDs gemacht. Dieses beinhaltete eine neue Cature erkennung. Dialog in Browser..... Nun geht mein Firefox auf und es wird mir ein Capture angezeigt. Auf der Seite steht weiterhin das sich das Fenster in ein paar Sekunden wieder Schliessen wird. Dieses tut es aber nicht. Es werden ständig neue Tabs mit Captures geöffnet ohne das auch nur eines wieder geschlossen wird. In den Einstellungen kann ich zwar den Hacken entfernen um diese Art der Erkennung zu deaktivieren, doch dieses bleibt ohne Erfolg. Auch bei deaktiviertem Dialogdienst werden weiterhin die Captures im Browser geöffnet. Die anderen Methoden werden gar nicht mehr beachtet.
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Old 29.04.2015, 16:40
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Same here.
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Old 29.04.2015, 17:03
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We use this browser workaround to show you captchas that are much easier to read and solve.

In your case, it seems that this does not work fine yet.

You can

1) Join our chat for a teamviewer session. This way I could check what's wrong and make it working.

2) Disable this new feature in the advanced options: BrowserCaptchaSolver: Browser Loop
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2) Disable this new feature in the advanced options: BrowserCaptchaSolver: Browser Loop
Ich habe das gleiche Problem hier. JD reagiert nicht auf die Deaktivierung. Die Captures werden weiterhin parallel im Browser, wie im Captcha-Fenster angezeigt. Auch nach einem Neustart von JD.

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Shemy nutzt du firefox? Falls ja:
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:blink: wer hat den Advanced Settings mit Profieinstellungen übersetzt?

Ich wusste gar nicht das sich unter dem Namen noch mehr befindet. Nachdem ich das Browser Loop nun gefunden und deaktiviert habe ist Ruhe.
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Hallo Leute,

ich brauche dringend Hilfe.
Beim Tippen hat sich Jdownloader gestern mal wieder in den Vordergrund gedrängelt (was mich btw. eh tierisch nervt. Ein Popup wenn ein Captcha nötig ist...ok. Aber muss das Ding sich immer vordrängeln? Das ist hier aber mal egal).

Seit gestern (bin wohl auf ne Taste gekommen) habe ich die Nerv - Deluxe - Edition. Jedes SCHEI... Captcha geht zusätzlich in einem neuen Tab im Firefox auf. Zum eigentlichen Fenster.
Das nervt so abartig, wenn ich nicht schnell rausfinde wie man das deaktiviert, fliegt die ganze Kiste runter vom PC.

Könnt ihr mir bitte helfen?
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Disable this new feature in the advanced options: BrowserCaptchaSolver: Browser Loop
oder https://support.jdownloader.org/inde...splay-captchas
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Die Captcha Popups können auch im Hintergrund gehalten werden.

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Re,
problem is new present ... since the update few hours ago...
Auto solver with myjdownloader captcha is not used. Browser open automatically and doesn't close. After few second, because no respond, 9kw is called, and resolved. But browser still open, and one tab is opened for each captcha...
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Please post a log and more info (especially about your browser).
As far as I know tabs/windows should auto-close.
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@Spawnie112
Um das mal kurz zu begründen:
Lies mal Captcha FAQ Punkt 5:
https://board.jdownloader.org/showthread.php?t=42165
...um eben diese "unlesbaren" Captchas zu verhindern gibt es diese neue Methode und wir arbeiten daran, diese so wenig wie möglich *nervig* zu gestalten
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