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Question or Issue(?): Forced Download Start
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I add 10 links (1...10) from LinkGrabber list to Downloads list. These links have Default Priority. In Downloads list context menu I click on 'Forced Download Start' for those 10 files. In column 'Connection' now I see the Highest Priority icon. (3 arrows pointing up) But in column 'Priority' I still see the Default Priority icon (no arrows) Question: What does this mean? Let's assume that I set the priority for 5 other files (11...15) to Highest Priority (also shown in column 'Priority': arrows pointing up). But without clicking on 'Forced Download Start' Do files 11...15 now have the same priority as files 1...10 I clicked on 'Forced Download Start'? And can you please tell me the download order for those 15 files. Last edited by StefanM; 12.06.2022 at 19:00. |
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@StefanM: "Force Download" means *try to download that fast as soon as possible* and ignore any priorities/position/other factors.
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There are two different "Forced Download" modes: When there are already downloads running, then you can tell JDownloader to *force* downloads and try to download them as soon as possible. Forced downloads have highest (higher as highest) priority. When there are no downloads running (start/play buton available) then "force download" will start the selected downloads and try to download them, BUT only those that are forced. No other/non forced links will be started. You can leave this mode either by full stop button -> start button cycle or you click once more on the start/play button (that will indiciate the forced only mode with special icon in corner) in order leave this special mode. The idea behind "Forced Download" is that you don't have to mess with changing priorites/order of the links in order to download a specific file next/sooner.
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"Forced Downloads" have highest priority, higher than "highest priority" and thus JDownloader will try to download them prior to other links
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Not sure whether my findings apply to all scenarios. So, I better ask Scenario 1 I have just one download running (max. simultaneous downloads = 1). There are more links in Downloads List and I apply 'Force download start' to 10 files. Another 5 (max. setting in Advanced Settings) downloads will start. I increase 'max. simultaneous downloads' to 5. This has no effect as long as the total number of downloads running at any one time is higher than that. So, in this scenario also 'Forced Downloads' count. Once all 'Forced Downloads' have been finished, there will be only 'normal' downloads. The order will be according to their individual priorities. Summary: To keep things going without user interaction, you have to start at least one single download before you start 'Forced Downloads'. After 'Forced Download' has been applied to the files you want, you can change the number of max. simultaneous downloads to the desired number. Scenario 2 Same setup as Scenario 1. But this time I apply 'Force Download' to a package. And it looks as if this is automatically applied to all files in that package - contrary to applying one of those 7 priorities (lowest...highest) to a package. Summary: You can use 'Force Download' to prioritize a package, so that all files in that package will have higher priority than 'highest' Scenario 3 According to what you wrote, if I only apply 'Force Download' to a number of files and/or packages in Downloads List, downloading will stop after all 'forced downloads' have been downloaded. Question 1: Are my scenarios described correctly? Question 2: In case, I started with 'Forced Downloads', is there any way to 'enable' continuing with other pending downloads, once all forced downloads have been finished (or fallen below the set number of max. simultaneous downloads? I mean 'enabling' this right after I started with those forced downloads. |
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I already explained that you can modify the priority actions to not just change the default priority of the packge but also enforce/change the priority to all its links
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not forced ones. In latter mode, JDownloader will continue downloads.
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But according to my observations, JD continues if there was at least one 'normal' download running before I selected files or packages for 'forced download'. That's what I also understand from your explanations. So, the logic is that JD 'falls back' to the state it was in, before I started forced downloads, right? I will try to think about a 'workaround'... Let's say, I usually have 6 simultaneous downloads. I would have to reduce them to 1 download, which I have to start. Then I could apply 'forced download' to all files I want to have priority 0. (Priority 0 is 1 step higher than priority 1, which is 'highest') |
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- If "normal" downloads were running before ("play" button pressed before forcing dls) those will continue while/once forced downloads are done - If "normal" downloads were not running before (you forced downloads without pressing the "play" button), JD will stop once all forced dls are over Quote:
So you basically always want JD to go into "normal" download mode once all forced downloads are completed? Yes though this might also be possible using an EventScripter script (always go into "normal" download mode after forcing downloads).
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Correct. If required I can add an action setting so you can tell JDownloader to switch *back* to *forced only* downloads mode. JDownloader would then continue the current running downloads but only continue/start forced downloads only and then stop.
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still try to download the forced ones earlier. You don't have to change any other settings then.
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Starting with 'forced downloads', e.g. 30 files. Using default setting in Advanced settings would download 5 of them simultaneously. I see that the Play/Start button has a 'footnote' and I can remove that footnote by once again clicking on it (if I remember correctly). So this would be it! If JD completes those 30 files still first, with priority 0, as I call it. (higher than highest) And then continue with normal pending downloads. And I can even prioritize all files in a package applying 'force downloads' on one ore more packages. So, this would be the answer to my question, if it works that way in all possible scenarios!? |
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Excellent! Exactly the way I want it to...
But if I remember correctly, you or Jiaz told me earlier, that there is no way to cancel those forced downloads (which are still pending, but tagged as 'forced'), unless I close and restart JD, right? |
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Once I've added an icon to see/indicate those forced links, I can also add an extra *remove force flag* action
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From your answers I can see, that at the moment there is no way without any unwanted side effects. Because my question was actually about 'removing that forced flag' without stopping anything, just setting things back to the status they were before. Background is: If I accidentally tag too many or the wrong files as 'forced downloads', there is not way to revert this without side effects. So, I'd really appreciate that extra 'remove force flag'. |
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@StefanM: At the moment there is no way to remove that flag without stop/start cycle or disabling the link. I will add "un-force" action by next week
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I still don't get why "un-forcing" shopuld bring any benefit:
Most of all times my guess would be that un-forcing will take more than stop & start again. ...though of course if you took several minutes to go through your downloadlist and mark downloads for force-starting, the ability to un-force downloads may be helpful. -psp-
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... I applied 'force download' to e.g. 50 files, but realize that I made a mistake. Downloads are already running! Now I want to correct my mistake by 'unforcing' those files, that I tagged by mistake. BTW, it is the same procedure as with those other 7 priorities (highest ... lowest). I can change the priority of each single file any time, without having to stop anything. I see it as follows:
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Is this rather cosmetical, or what would be the difference between this "un-force" and the now working "disable" and "enable" solution? (Sure, you'd spare one click. thats fair enough imho!) |
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A notification about a new comment to my request reminded me... Has this "un-force" action been added, as mentioned? If yes, how do I use "un-force"? If not, could you try to add it, please? Thanks a lot! |
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No.
As you can clearly see in the embedded ticket on page 1 of this thread, the status of the related ticket is still at 0%. I'll embed the ticket once again here:
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In the background, the *not yet existing* *un-force* action will just remove the forced flag from the link. but yes, same happens when you disable/enable the link. the main difference is that the link will not have to go through disable/enable cycle, eg you can un-force links that are currently being processed without having to abort them.
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I thought that next week would have been by the end of June... |
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Trying to put pressure on Jiaz won't make him do this faster.
You can join our development team at any time and contribute your own code. I've already told Jiaz better not to publish any dates if he is unsure whether or not he will find the time to work on stuff. Please see this ticket as an open ticket without any ETA and wait until Jiaz finds the time to work on this...
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